RIB Racing 2004

Cookee · 29 April 2004, 10:21

Just opened a letter from Chris Strickland and Mike Shelton of BIBOA - it seems that they have decided after consulting with the members to change things a little for 2004!

All the RIB classes will race together on the same day.

Races will be over longer legs which will mean less safety cover and possibly a long wait for rescue!

For example:

Torquay - will be as far East as Teignmouth

Exmouth - over 100 miles to the Eddystone and back

Fairlie - from Largs to Inchmarnock and back with a lap of Great Cumbrae

Poole - they are resurecting the Needles trophy for RIBS (not the Needles Trophy from Cowes which is the 2 litre round the Island trophy) dating from 1932.

Cowes - Will of course be running the Cowes Torquay Cowes again

We (all classes) will be racing for:

BIBOA National Champs
RYA National Champs
Stockdale Grand Prix
RIB World Cup
British Harmsworth Trophy
Needles Trophy

That's a lot of silverware!

Sounds like an interesting year for the RIBS and at least they will be able to afford to go a bit slower round the corners as there will be fewer of them!

If anyone is interested in being involved as a rescue boat or helping on land please get in touch with BIBOA - via the website would be best or PM me your details and I will pass them along!

tim griffin · 29 April 2004, 10:42

Hi Cookee
wow that is alot of silverware
re the safety boat cover if im not working i can provide some cover for the SOLENT will you/ BIBOA cover fuel costs but can,t promise until nearer the time sorry
regards tim
www.griffmarineservices.co.uk

John Kennett · 29 April 2004, 11:13

Sounds like a bit of proper offshore racing! How does that fit with the RYA? Will you be allowed to go out if it's windy?

John

Cookee · 29 April 2004, 11:18

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Originally Posted by tim griffin

Hi Cookee
wow that is alot of silverware
re the safety boat cover if im not working i can provide some cover for the SOLENT will you/ BIBOA cover fuel costs but can,t promise until nearer the time sorry
regards tim
www.griffmarineservices.co.uk

It is a lot of Silver isn't it!

The racing in the Solent will be August Bank Holiday - I will try and find out for you about the fuel and let you know - Jim Mackintosh is the BIBOA secretary you can email him at: biboa@talk21.com - his other details are the website at: http://www.biboa.com/contact.htm

Cookee · 29 April 2004, 11:37

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Originally Posted by John Kennett

Sounds like a bit of proper offshore racing! How does that fit with the RYA? Will you be allowed to go out if it's windy?

John

Another of the reasons why I'm defecting to RIBs - it seems the RYA are too scared to send the class 3 boats out when it is ok for RIBS to race - the farce that was the last Blackpool race is a good example! - My opinion is that if the safety boats can pick up people and tow a boat in then it's ok to race - if you don't want to race - don't or go slower! We are not trying to put lives at risk here, just to have a good time!

I really believe that in some circumstances batboats are neither strong enough nor good enough sea boats (in a following sea) to race, so despite having built a strong enough boat and suffered a weight penalty and it being less efficient but more seaworthy - the circumstances where I could benefit from all of this I'm not allowed to race!

Dirk Diggler · 29 April 2004, 11:48

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Originally Posted by Cookee

so despite having built a strong enough boat and suffered a weight penalty and it being less efficient but more seaworthy - the circumstances where I could benefit from all of this I'm not allowed to race!

Sounds to me like you built the wrong kind of boat

Working on that principal you should be allowed to enter the British Grand Prix in your pick up truck!

Cookee · 29 April 2004, 11:53

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

Working on that principal you should be allowed to enter the British Grand Prix in your pick up truck!

See your point but they don't stop the racing because they are worried some of the field might break their cars! Besides I have won in the rough conditions when they do let us out!

TIPS · 29 April 2004, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Cookee

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I really believe that in some circumstances batboats are neither strong enough nor good enough sea boats (in a following sea) to race, ..........

Bit of a newbie's question here : D Would it not be harder for bat boats (or any other boat) in a 'head on' sea? I thought in a following sea boats had a tendancy to ride over the top of the waves more, rather through them ?

Mark

Cookee · 29 April 2004, 18:55

Tips - fair enough question - everyone has to start somewhere!

All boats behave the same in a head sea - the bow is pushed up by the angle of the waves so it is importan to trim the engine in and fill the bow tank if necessary.

Downwind the shape of the waves tend to make the bow of a boat bury itself in the next wave, hence it is important to empty the bow tank and trim the engine out - the shape of a Batboat being very pointy means that once the boat is pointed downwards it just carries on downwards!
If you ever get the chance of seeing a batboat, stand in front of it and look at the shape of the bow and you will see what I mean!

David Hickman · 29 April 2004, 22:30

We never get anything for fuel for the safety boats in Torbay! But I will still be out though doing safety/rescue etc.! See you In Torquay Cookee!

Cookee · 30 April 2004, 08:39

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Originally Posted by David Hickman

We never get anything for fuel for the safety boats in Torbay! But I will still be out though doing safety/rescue etc.! See you In Torquay Cookee!

Looking forward to Torquay - sounds like it's going to be a fun race - round the Eddiestone and back - guess they will throw in a couple of extra bits as well - around 100 miles altogether!

Adam Younger · 30 April 2004, 09:11

The whole idea of RIB's racing on long distance open legs seems good to me. It all seemed rather pointless when everyone was doing the same courses.

It now gives competitors a choice as to what type of racing they want to do. With regards to RIB's it may encourage the building of true offshore boats rather than a few of the specials that have been built which are nothing but short circuit race boats. I think it would be a good thing if racing RIB's also had to have the ability to carry four people. The sport seemed much better to me when the boats all had dual purpose and were used outside of racing - many RIB's seem to have lost this.

Anyway - it will be interesting to see how the competitors feels about the changes and at the end of it how many teams turn up to race.

Adam Younger · 30 April 2004, 09:18

Also ....

Very much agree with Cookee about the problems of not racing offshore class 3 in rough weather. Very frustrating that races have been cancelled / shortened because in part there are many boats that are not good in rough weather.

Whilst the latest Mannerfelt Batboats are a great bit of kit they have big problems downwind (and in big beam seas). It is not just down to their deck shape either.

Alan Priddy · 30 April 2004, 13:10

So the clock has turned full circle and RIB's will be racing for what they were orginally designed and built for. Should be a good season. Does this mean that I might get more than 10 entries for the First Trans Atlantic Race next July? After all, Jan Falkowski and myself did it in 1997 in a 7 metre boat so I do not see why some of you dont fit extra tanks and "go for it" Alan P

cider daze · 30 April 2004, 13:30

Iam really looking foward to this year, long runs are more about geting your boat in top condition so we dont get breakdowns so this will play a big part in this years championship,not just about speed.

bogib · 01 May 2004, 01:41

Heyr, Heyr Alan Priddy challange to go for my friend
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Bogi

Cookee · 01 May 2004, 09:01

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Originally Posted by Alan Priddy

Should be a good season.

Does this mean that I might get more than 10 entries for the First Trans Atlantic Race next July?

I do not see why some of you dont fit extra tanks and "go for it" Alan P

Yes very much looking forward to it, and despite a lot of bull I seem to be making headway! Did you know there is a requirement to carry an approved first aid kit in the RIB classes - except they havn't bothered to actually write a list so you know what "approved" is! I could go on but it would bore you all to death ............

Mmmmmmmmmm Trans Atlantic race - so how many miles between fuel stops? On a petrol boat wouldn't you be a floating bomb?

tim griffin · 01 May 2004, 10:31

Cookee
they are probably talking about cat c first aid kit
regards tim
www.griffmarineservices.co.uk

Cookee · 01 May 2004, 10:45

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Originally Posted by tim griffin

Cookee
they are probably talking about cat c first aid kit
regards tim
www.griffmarineservices.co.uk

Sorry Tim I'm obviously not making myself clear - they don't know what they are talking about!

- there is no approved list!

I am obviously going to put a first aid kit on, but the point is that there is only half a rule - it could be about flares or any thing else - see my point?

tim griffin · 02 May 2004, 07:00

do now
you must find it very frustrating regards tim
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