Rib Thefts - Special Offer from Datatag UK

boristhebold · 17 May 2011, 12:11

I chatted to Datatag today which is the theft protection service I use about the increasing Rib thefts. They have agreed to give Rib Forum members a discount on their service.

To take them up on the offer see the details below;

Hi Mark

Nice to speak with you this morning, as discussed we are happy to support the forum with a special offer, understanding that there is a particular issue in this sector. Please find a copy of the packaging attached.

The offer is valid from today until the last working day of June, which is June 30th.

The offer is for our "Thatcham approved" Marine Security System which is £69.99, we will offer a discount of 20% and free postage and packaging. The price will be £55.99 including VAT and including p&p

To obtain a system at this discounted rate, Forum members will need to phone direct on 01932 796 788 with either a debit or credit card and quote reference "Datatag RIB11"

Trust this is acceptable and welcome your support.

Regards

Chris Harrison
Sales Director

DATATAG UK

MustRib · 17 May 2011, 12:21

Do I understand the DataTag system, in that its a passive system.
It only works if the boat has been found, but wont tell you where it actually is?

Starovich · 17 May 2011, 12:42

nice work, thanks boris

PeterM · 17 May 2011, 12:47

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Originally Posted by MustRib

Do I understand the DataTag system, in that its a passive system.
It only works if the boat has been found, but wont tell you where it actually is?

Thats as I understand it , but the 'tags' are virtually impossible to find/remove from the boat -so they tend to be stolen less as 'if' found the tag will always show the boats real/true owner.

The thieves will move on to another boat as a result. Its a condition of most decent Jetski insurances the craft is tagged.

Again good work Mark and for that price hard to say no.

Pete

boristhebold · 17 May 2011, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by MustRib

Do I understand the DataTag system, in that its a passive system.
It only works if the boat has been found, but wont tell you where it actually is?

Yes your correct, however I use it on my boat and I see the main benefit is as a detterence, thieves would rather move to a non datataged boat or outboard to pinch rather than waisting alot of time searching for microdots and transponders. In a nutshell you hide a couple of transponders in the boat or outboard, then place with a brush lots and lots of microdots in your electronic items or elsewhere, register your details with Datatag which are then linked to the microdots and transponder identifying numbers, finally stick a couple of stickers on the boat telling everyone it is datatagged and the unique ident on your hull or console if you want to and thats it. Thieves will not want to mess about and will move to a unprotected boat to pinch.

MustRib · 17 May 2011, 13:09

sounds like the ideal combo is the Datatag stuff.
(thanks for working out that deal btw

)
Combined with the TK 102 Tracker.
Sounds like you could get a fairly comprehensive security system together
for about £115.00

Xk59D · 17 May 2011, 13:56

how would the thieves know you have this and not nick it anyway?

cheers

Leapy · 17 May 2011, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Xk59D

how would the thieves know you have this and not nick it anyway?

Quote:

Originally Posted by boristhebold

a couple of stickers

MustRib · 17 May 2011, 14:12

as far as I see it...
if someone wants to take your boat - wherever it is,
they will be able to do it.
I am not convinced stickers and data tag are the answer or even
enough of a deterrent. They are a means of verifying property is yours
that is acceptable to the police.
If you add in a tracking device as well, and geo fence the boat,
then I would feel I had done as much as I could to safeguard the boat,
afloat or on the trailer.
When I read the posts of those who have had ther boats stolen,
I dont think any of them would have baulked at £115 for a tracker
and datatag in retrospect.
Lets face it - price of even an average outboard, its like having a Fiat Uno on the Transom.
You would lock and alarm a car.

Incidentally - anyone on here had a boat nicked with a tracker fitted and recovered it? be nice to know it works in practice !

Xk59D · 17 May 2011, 14:20

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Originally Posted by Leapy

i was assuming it was slightly more indepth than that-perhaps a statue on the bow or something!!! :-)

fully agree at end of day if they really want it they will take it but every deterent has to help.

a tracker hidden onboard somewhere and this is as good as you could manage realistically with little money-nice job on discount.

cheers

Leapy · 17 May 2011, 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by MustRib

I am not convinced stickers and data tag are the answer or even enough of a deterrent. They are a means of verifying property is yours that is acceptable to the police. If you add in a tracking device as well, and geo fence the boat, then I would feel I had done as much as I could to safeguard the boat, afloat or on the trailer.

Yep

boristhebold · 17 May 2011, 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xk59D

i was assuming it was slightly more indepth than that-perhaps a statue on the bow or something!!! :-)

fully agree at end of day if they really want it they will take it but every deterent has to help.

a tracker hidden onboard somewhere and this is as good as you could manage realistically with little money-nice job on discount.

cheers

I think different people will have different needs for security, if your boat is usually on a trailer then those are the ones most at risk as most are being pinched on trailers. Datatag will help to deter the thief due to the time it would take trying to remove all the micro dots, having said that if the boat goes abroad before anyone spots it then game over most likely. Trackers could be good if the thief does not have much time to remove them, problem is many people have had their boats pinched and not realised for several days. Good if your boat is at home or you visit the boat often or it has a facility to tell you when its been moved from a pre set area. Battery life or power could be an issue.

Several security measures and technology would be best bet, at the end of the day its down to risk.... some scenarios

High Risk
Boat kept on Trailer at unmanned marina with no cctv or controlled access, no trailer security, no datatag, no tracker, owner only visits occaisonally

Low Risk
Boat kept on Dry Stack in Marina with CCTV, manned patrols, datatag and micro dots fitted, tracker fitted, owner uses boat regularly and well known to marina staff

Could be lots of combinations in between.

Pikey Dave · 18 May 2011, 14:20

just ordered the Datatag kit, i'll let you know how I get on.

DGR · 19 May 2011, 20:43

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Originally Posted by boristhebold

...if your boat is usually on a trailer then those are the ones most at risk as most are being pinched on trailers...

I only use mine as a launching trolley - so I took the brakes off it...

If anyone nicks it - I'll find them in the field directly across the roundabout at the end of the estuary...

Seriously though - tracker and Datag for £115 - bargain!!

Leapy · 20 May 2011, 07:14

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Originally Posted by DGR

Seriously though - tracker and Datag for £115 - bargain!!

I don't think there's been a formal quote for the bulk buy tracker yet...my experience is that my single TK102 - well over a year ago - was £60 give or take the US$ exchange rate. If I remember correctly Xenun quote in US$ for payment via PayPal. Plus, £12 or so for the hard wire kit and £12 or so for postage from China: total £84.

Market forces may have driven the cost of the tracker down significantly but for a bulk buy where there may be 10 units the postage must be considered. The packaging of a TK102 is about 12 times the size of the tracker itself.

Jizm · 20 May 2011, 08:39

Datatag kits have been on use for bikes and jetskis for years. It's not going to stop it being nicked but it may get you a discount on insurance and it may get you your boat back. Not sure what the retail price is because I no longer sell them, £55 seems pretty reasonable to me though.
Just my 2p

GaryC · 20 May 2011, 09:27

Sorry if I missed this?

Is the £115 cost from Datatag for both the marking system and a Tracker?

Thanks

Gary

MustRib · 20 May 2011, 13:13

Hi Gary...

The cost comes from me adding together the Datatag offer and the sort of price we would hope to get for one of the Chinese trackers.
115 not cast in stone.... just a ball park

DGR · 20 May 2011, 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryC

Sorry if I missed this?

Is the £115 cost from Datatag for both the marking system and a Tracker?

Sorry if I caused confusion - it was a figure made up of the 'maybe' cost of the tracker added to the datatag price - but I realise it's not set in stone. Apologies if I gave that impression.

However, for around that price (within £30 ish) - then it sounds good to me. Thanks to all the people who have been sorting this stuff out - outstanding!!

GaryC · 20 May 2011, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGR

Sorry if I caused confusion - it was a figure made up of the 'maybe' cost of the tracker added to the datatag price - but I realise it's not set in stone. Apologies if I gave that impression.

However, for around that price (within £30 ish) - then it sounds good to me. Thanks to all the people who have been sorting this stuff out - outstanding!!

No confusion. It all sounds good. Is there a best place to source the Tracker?

I think both things sound like a jolly good idea.

Gary