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15 August 2018, 15:53
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Ribcraft 4.8 reinvented
175 hp 216kg (lightest version)
150 hp 206kg (lightest version)
There are the XS pro, sea pro and jet versions but I doubt any of us will be after them...
Our 175hp 2S 2.5L V6 optimax is 196kg.
Just ordered the 200hp.[emoji106]
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15 August 2018, 15:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Boat name: Matchless
Make: Ribcraft 6.8m
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 3.4l 225 V6
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Yes thats the point - there is the Pro XS, the FourStroke and the SeaPro; just wondering which ones people were on about
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15 August 2018, 16:05
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Ribcraft 4.8 reinvented
Unless you’re racing there’s no need for the xs pro. And unless commercial using, there’s no need for the sea pro.
Interestingly the 175 xs pro is a 3.4L V6 but the 200/225 xs pro is a bigger block like the 250/300+, a 4.6L V8. Same engine with another bank of cylinders.
The 175/200/225 normal 4S are all the 3.4L V6.
The sea pro however has 3.4L for 175/200 but 4.6 for the 225 upwards.
All good fun to mix it up.
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15 August 2018, 16:07
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Make: Ribcraft
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If it was me, I'd take a serious look at the 150hp Merc. But Ribcraft are Suzuki main dealers & offer very attractive package prices. That's why I said if pushed, go for the 150 Suzuki. As Xk59D re-iterates wot I said, the 140 is a lazy engine, but I suspect it may be pushed by RC.
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15 August 2018, 16:10
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Forget the 175, it isn't worth the cost difference nor going over the normal max HP rating, although ribcraft will adapt to 175 if you really want but I have spent many hours beside a 6.5m boat with the normal 150 fourstroke and it is PLENTY, will hit 42 knots and in a hurry so has tons of grunt.
I have quotes for a 225 mercury v6 and a 250 v8 here for a re-engine, they told me the 175 and 200 price too and they are minimum 4k more than you can buy a 150 for if shopping about...not sure about new build ofcourse.
If they offer a much better deal on a zuke 150 then I wouldn't be totally adverse to that but ideally I would have the mercury too.
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15 August 2018, 16:30
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Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
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Ribcraft 4.8 reinvented
as Xk59D says. it depends how and where you are going to use the boat if just normal ribbing the 150 is the job
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15 August 2018, 20:39
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Town: London/Oxford
Make: Ribcrafts
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp/2x115hp
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Trust me.......go for the 150hp Mercury on the 585.
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15 August 2018, 20:58
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Ribcraft 4.8 reinvented
Nice shot, looks well balanced too.
A friend of mine is considering ordering a 585 as he has a v low hours 115 optimax himself.
Would that be way underpowered for family cruising?
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22 August 2018, 12:51
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Town: Whitehaven
Boat name: Cerberus
Make: Destroyer 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: 115hp Merc 4st
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
Nice shot, looks well balanced too.
A friend of mine is considering ordering a 585 as he has a v low hours 115 optimax himself.
Would that be way underpowered for family cruising?
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I spoke to Ribcraft recently about re-hulling my boat and they had no concerns about a 115hp on a 585. If I recall it was expected to push highish 36+kts.
Incidentally, a 585, dual console, 4 jockeys, single A frame and not a lot else on it was around £17k. Osprey recommended a 5.8 or 6.2 for that engine but expected 34-35kts. Vipers also both around the £17k mark, give or take. I ended up buying a Humber 5.8, same configuration for about £13k instead. Won't be quite the finish of an RC I'm sure but fitting it out myself so can polish the edges and I have no concerns about the handling. No idea what speed it will make as it isn't ready yet but Humber estimated at 40+kts. If its over 35kts I'll be happy.
Can't speak for the 150 Merc but the 115 2.1l is a great engine.
Phil M
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22 August 2018, 13:06
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Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
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I have RC 585 and have never regretted putting the new Merc 150 on her great engine and makes a great combo[emoji106]
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22 August 2018, 14:01
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Town: suffolk
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Originally Posted by Phil M
I spoke to Ribcraft recently about re-hulling my boat and they had no concerns about a 115hp on a 585. If I recall it was expected to push highish 36+kts.
Incidentally, a 585, dual console, 4 jockeys, single A frame and not a lot else on it was around £17k. Osprey recommended a 5.8 or 6.2 for that engine but expected 34-35kts. Vipers also both around the £17k mark, give or take. I ended up buying a Humber 5.8, same configuration for about £13k instead. Won't be quite the finish of an RC I'm sure but fitting it out myself so can polish the edges and I have no concerns about the handling. No idea what speed it will make as it isn't ready yet but Humber estimated at 40+kts. If its over 35kts I'll be happy.
Can't speak for the 150 Merc but the 115 2.1l is a great engine.
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Thanks for that post Phil ,that to me is very helpful and the sort of ballpark ideas i would expect to get on a forum ,thankyou again , nb does that need to be long shaft outboard or xl ,or maybe the built to order man will arrive to tell me it can be either
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22 August 2018, 14:03
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Mine is long shaft but I guess both can be accommodated.
Phil
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22 August 2018, 15:43
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Sorry for my uninformed post. I’ll not bother you again
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22 August 2018, 16:28
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Oh blimey dude
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22 August 2018, 17:54
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Ribcraft 4.8 reinvented
Someone has edited a post I’m afraid. The offending part has been eradicated! I don’t mind honest comments that’s what the forum is for but I do hate a blatant put-down when your only adding comments to a general mix.
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22 August 2018, 18:00
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Boat name: Black Pig
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......or maybe the built to order man will arrive to tell me it can be either
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Well who'd have thought it, seems with patience and time, you can educate pork after all. My work here is done.....
Lol
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22 August 2018, 22:35
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Originally Posted by Orwell boy
Thanks for that post Phil ,that to me is very helpful and the sort of ballpark ideas i would expect to get on a forum ,thankyou again , nb does that need to be long shaft outboard or xl ,or maybe the built to order man will arrive to tell me it can be either
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Agreed, cheers, for the post, he’ll be happy to know and is out with two young boys in fair weather, so be more than happy with that I imagine.
Will be interesting to see our 200hp on the 6.3. I honestly suspect it’ll be v similar to our 175ho opti. Need to time some hole shot and top end with various weights I suppose, but Work and family could restrict.
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