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14 May 2009, 09:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mayfair, London
Make: RibEye/Ferretti 881
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 25/Twin MTU
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 691
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Originally Posted by Mollers
You'll actually notice that my 'digging' is mostly in response to Twim's 'bigging'.
Ribeye ribs are not rubbish, but they are a medium vee, mass produced boat of average quality. Ribeye Ribs are not particularly cheap, therefore I don't understand why a buyer would opt for one over and above other brands.
A superior brand with a similar spec and lay out could be bought for similar money and have a stronger residual.
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A little bit of advice for you. Read the posts on this thread carefully and learn from them. It'll do you some good.
Another tip is to carefully look at some of your postings a way back (in another name?) which does somwhat contradict your current statement that "Ribeye ribs are not rubbish"
You're in a bit of pickle now aren't you? You'd love to carry on slating them, but realise plenty of people on here either other than me either have them or quite like them.
Best to quieten down now, dont you think?
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14 May 2009, 09:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Originally Posted by neilda
I know the digging - I've seen the original thread!
My budget was £16k for a second hand boat (ideally something with no more than 150 hours and in really nice condition) and I've now revised that budget to maybe £25k for new or very nearly new. I am not going to drive to Ireland to get one either.
Strictly leisure - nice weather only, with the family.
6m is ideal, 6.5 slightly better still. Jockeys up front, bench at the back - 4 stroke engine.
If that was the criteria (which it is) what else should I look at?
I've seen a Cobra Nautique in Anglesey that looks interesting....
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With a £25k budget, you have plenty of options. Perhaps you're stereotyping brands a little. Most manufacters build to a customers spec'. If this is inclined towards the leisure end of the market, that's how it's fitted out. Stripy,squidgy seats can be fitted to any hull type.
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14 May 2009, 09:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Near Godalming
Boat name: AJA
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F150AETX
Join Date: May 2009
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Are there particular RIB manufacturers you recommend I look at?
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14 May 2009, 09:51
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,925
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Originally Posted by neilda
I am not going to drive to Ireland to get one either.
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No-one does!
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14 May 2009, 09:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Near Godalming
Boat name: AJA
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F150AETX
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 558
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Originally Posted by bedajim
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I've sent them an email..... thanks for the spot.
7.5 is a big boat for a first-timer maybe?
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14 May 2009, 09:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Originally Posted by neilda
Are there particular RIB manufacturers you recommend I look at?
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Cobra.
Scorpion.
Ribtec.
Some Ribcraft and Osprey Ribs come in squidgy spec.
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14 May 2009, 10:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Near Godalming
Boat name: AJA
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F150AETX
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 558
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There's a Cobra here (although it's miles away)
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F199618
Nice engine....
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14 May 2009, 10:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,875
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Originally Posted by neilda
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Yep, nice rig. You might prefer a 4stroke being a leesurely kinda guy.
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14 May 2009, 11:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Near Godalming
Boat name: AJA
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F150AETX
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 558
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Yes my preference is for 4 stroke - but I'm not going to add to the fathomless pit of debate on 4 or 2!
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14 May 2009, 11:27
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,500
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Originally Posted by neilda
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Seen that before, isn't it someone from here
Here you go post 5
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...ighlight=cobra
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14 May 2009, 12:16
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,203
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neilda
Yes my preference is for 4 stroke - but I'm not going to add to the fathomless pit of debate on 4 or 2!
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No please dont as you will have leapy breaking out more maybe even his jumbo pack
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14 May 2009, 13:16
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Revengers have a very deep V hull - they give an amazing ride in the rough but of course the deeper the V the more power you need to drive it and hence the more fuel you use.
A flatter V will be more easily driven so will be better in calm waters but in a chop will give a harder ride.
Revengers also seem to be bullet proof - some of the Norwegian Fjord rafting people use them and they haven't managed to break one yet - and they give them some stick.
I would say the Ribeye is more on a level with a Cobra - good family boat for normal trips - will handle rough weather but not with the comfort of some others.
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14 May 2009, 13:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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Most RIB manufacturers use the same basic hull shape for different models and different sizes (the most obvious exception to the rule being Humber who used to have several different hull profiles - Assault, Attaque, Ocean Pro, etc...). Ribeyes I've seen have different hull shapes for different sizes. This makes any generalisation about their comfort and performance completely pointless without specifying which model and size.
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14 May 2009, 16:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Near Godalming
Boat name: AJA
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F150AETX
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 558
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Revengers have a very deep V hull - they give an amazing ride in the rough but of course the deeper the V the more power you need to drive it and hence the more fuel you use.
A flatter V will be more easily driven so will be better in calm waters but in a chop will give a harder ride.
Revengers also seem to be bullet proof - some of the Norwegian Fjord rafting people use them and they haven't managed to break one yet - and they give them some stick.
I would say the Ribeye is more on a level with a Cobra - good family boat for normal trips - will handle rough weather but not with the comfort of some others.
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That's an interesting summary - thanks....
I went over to Ballistic today and had a look at their 6.5, nice looking boats, completely built in South Africa - they arrive shrink wrapped in the UK. Quite pricey, but I liked the layout.
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14 May 2009, 17:06
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neilda
I remember buying an Aston a while back and there was a group of sad die-hards at the AMOC who basically said if it wasn't a V8 built in 1982 by men with hammers called Derek it wasn't really a proper Aston;
Thanks.
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On the money...
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14 May 2009, 20:16
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Guernsey
Boat name: Monkey Nutz
Make: Cougar R8 Sport
Length: 8m +
Engine: 350Sci Verado
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 931
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Revengers have a very deep V hull - they give an amazing ride in the rough but of course the deeper the V the more power you need to drive it and hence the more fuel you use.
A flatter V will be more easily driven so will be better in calm waters but in a chop will give a harder ride.
Revengers also seem to be bullet proof - some of the Norwegian Fjord rafting people use them and they haven't managed to break one yet - and they give them some stick.
I would say the Ribeye is more on a level with a Cobra - good family boat for normal trips - will handle rough weather but not with the comfort of some others.
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15 May 2009, 14:05
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
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Okay you explain it better then - or is that the best you can come up with???
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15 May 2009, 14:33
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#38
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 6,203
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Thought you were spot on Codders
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15 May 2009, 15:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 7,866
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Okay you explain it better then - or is that the best you can come up with???
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I think that Codprawn missed one important point that is not obvious from his post.
The fact that when Sea conditions get bad, the "FAST" RIB's are the ones with the deep V's
Deep V = Confidence
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15 May 2009, 15:34
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
I think that Codprawn missed one important point that is not obvious from his post.
The fact that when Sea conditions get bad, the "FAST" RIB's are the ones with the deep V's
Deep V = Confidence
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I thought I had covered that???
The thing is a lot of people will only go out on a nice day and then a deep V can be a bit of a liability. A flat bottom = less power needed - higher top speed and less fuel used.
I would never consider such a boat but a lot of people will.
And to be honest RIBs ike Cobras and Ribeyes are still a medium V - not that flat when compared with many modern sportsboats - I would rather be out in a RIbeye in a force 6 than some Bayliners, Rinkers or Maxums.
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