Ribs rammed during protest - Page 3

Low Flyer · 22 November 2014, 08:37

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Originally Posted by Barrowboy

All pretty tame really. Thirty years ago the French government blew up the Rainbow Warrior alongside in Auckland because she was inconveniencing their nuclear testing in the Pacific...

There will always be activists ready to 'campaign' using direct action and it always amuses me the 'outrage' that spews forth when their direct action is countered (using direct action) by the forces of law and order.

If you want to debate something, there are times, places and processes. Once you've lost the debate and decide to take 'direct action' then you shouldn't be surprised when the going gets tough.

So True.

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Firefly · 23 November 2014, 17:54

Regardless of who holds the moral high ground in this incident, the seamanship displayed by the Spanish crews is despicable. It shows a complete lack of respect for the lives of others.
Their reactions are totally disproportionate and akin to behaviour more commonly found in some backward, underdeveloped lands rather than a founding member of the EU.
Someone should tell the Spanish authorities that the year is 2014 not 1420...

For those Spaniards who do not speak the international language of the sea:

E UNA DESGRACIA

Poly · 23 November 2014, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Firefly

... rather than a founding member of the EU.

They weren't...

Low Flyer · 23 November 2014, 20:04

When they did it in Russia they got locked up. There are other ways to get your point heard,if we all protested like GP anarchy would become common place. There are boundaries which they know,so they only have themselves to blame.

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Dan Gurney · 23 November 2014, 20:28

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Originally Posted by Low Flyer

When they did it in Russia they got locked up. There are other ways to get your point heard,if we all protested like GP anarchy would become common place. There are boundaries which they know,so they only have themselves to blame.

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I'd rather get locked up than killed.

Firefly · 23 November 2014, 22:22

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Originally Posted by Poly

They weren't...

So they joined during the first enlargement period. Does the later joining date somehow explain their behaviour?

I too, would rather be imprisoned than rammed by a maniac in a RIB.

Low Flyer · 23 November 2014, 22:38

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Originally Posted by Clamchowder

I'd rather get locked up than killed.

They have a choice to be there.

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Wibs · 23 November 2014, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Firefly

It shows a complete lack of respect for the lives of others.
Their reactions are totally disproportionate and akin to behaviour more commonly found in some backward, underdeveloped lands

I dunno about that......

Have you ever been on the South Coast during Cowes week.?

Poly · 23 November 2014, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Firefly

So they joined during the first enlargement period. Does the later joining date somehow explain their behaviour?

I too, would rather be imprisoned than rammed by a maniac in a RIB.

No they didn't join until the third enlargement, many people forget Spain was a dictatorship in most of our lifetimes. I wasn't the one suggesting early eu membership was incompatible with tough "security" regimes.

Poly · 23 November 2014, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Clamchowder

I'd rather get locked up than killed.

Did anyone get killed? id rather go for a swim in the Atlantic than spend time in a Russian jail.

willk · 23 November 2014, 23:07

Much as I'm enjoying this thread, I'd like to remind all the posters that Politics are verboten on this forum (and I can see why). It's an emotive subject and one that's very much dependent on where you were born and bred - so no point in thrashing it out on here.

P.S. No posters were intentionally harmed, insulted, belittled or sneered at in the comment above. JK's had a very long week and he'd like a rest now pls

captnjack · 24 November 2014, 19:54

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Originally Posted by jyasaki

No thanks. We were overtaken by a USN Frigate coming into San Diego from a White Shark cage diving trip. (Apparently the exclusion zone only works one way, as they passed about 200 yds off our starboard side.) Lots of pleasure boats out and about, including a lot of blowboaters tacking their way along. The frigate had .50 caliber M2s on each corner, all manned by a gunner and a spotter. Anyone within about a quarter mile had a gun trained on them. I have no doubts they were locked and loaded.

jky

Yeah they are totally hypocrites on that up here too. They will cut you off or do whatever the hell they want but lord help you if your speed and direction of travel (in their minds) brings you within 400 yards.

dnv · 25 November 2014, 20:09

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Originally Posted by willk

... verboten ...

Jawohl, Herr KaLeu!
;-)

willk · 25 November 2014, 20:57

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Originally Posted by dnv

Jawohl, Herr KaLeu!
;-)

Ah, you'll have to forgiven me. My old man trained in Frankfurt in 1964, so a lot of childish activity was "Verboten" in our house when we were growing up!

gr79b · 29 May 2018, 21:07

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Originally Posted by willk

Yeah. Try rubbing up against these guys 4 miles off....

there you are:

gr79b · 29 May 2018, 21:26

very old post but not long ago heard some first hand info about this incident.

This swishing thing is quite common with the spanish, but a bit too close here... but the ramming was a mistake. They were quite young and unexperienced drivers.
The Navy later apologized.

The thing is, you have to take this into consideration. Most authorities drivers are not that experienced in rib driving, cause most of the times they use their hard boats. More or less only special forces of Navy or Police are trained well.

If I had been on the GP boat, I would have tried to do a quick reverse, so that they ram each other.

Cheers