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17 April 2014, 21:14
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Rope
How much rope if any is a good amount to carry. Here is my thinking... You anchor in a nice safe spot for the night set up camp but worry that the anchor might slip in the night.
Would attaching a second line of sinking rope that reaches the beach with a second anchor be viable?
Assuming the tide is already high and you are not in an area where the tide goes out 5 miles.
As present I have 45m of rope with 4m of 8mm chain and 5kg Bruce anchor. My Rib is 4.8m so quite small.
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17 April 2014, 21:18
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Originally Posted by Adamn
How much rope if any is a good amount to carry.
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Enough to drop anchor anywhere in your usual cruising waters in an emergency.
It gets rather deep not far out round your way!
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17 April 2014, 21:30
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I carry a 6mm trip line which would double up as a security line.
I've had the 'nightmare scenario' when anchored off, camping on Molulnan, never again. I ended up running down the beach starkers at 6am dragging my shorty on whilst running. 'Hey Joe I' was not in a good place.
I stick to the rivers or Scillies for overnight anchoring now.
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17 April 2014, 21:45
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Thanks. Unless I go more than 3 miles out the water is less than 120ft, 35m. Unless off the Manacles.
Nice tale Mollers not nice seeing your pride and joy leaving without you.
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17 April 2014, 22:18
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Originally Posted by Adamn
Thanks. Unless I go more than 3 miles out the water is less than 120ft, 35m. Unless off the Manacles.
Nice tale Mollers not nice seeing your pride and joy leaving without you.
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Keep up. His pride and joy was swinging about in front of him as he ran down the beach. It was his Rib that had disappeared...
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17 April 2014, 22:21
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Originally Posted by Barrowboy
Keep up. His pride and joy was swinging about in front of him as he ran down the beach. It was his Rib that had disappeared...
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Pride & Joy? I though he said he was dragging on his "shorty"?
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17 April 2014, 22:25
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Lads, it was her idea of a romantic eve, sleeping on our fave beach. I wasn't fully up for it, but went along with the idea. It was an unmitigated disaster from start to finish. As I said, never again.
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17 April 2014, 22:32
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Thanks. Unless I go more than 3 miles out the water is less than 120ft, 35m. Unless off the Manacles.
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you need 100m anchor rope - thats what i now carry as i broke down a couple of years back in deep water and my anchor wouldnt set. i used to carry 30m thinking i would only be anchoring up near beaches
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17 April 2014, 22:44
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Originally Posted by Festinghouse
you need 100m anchor rope - thats what i now carry as i broke down a couple of years back in deep water and my anchor wouldnt set. i used to carry 30m thinking i would only be anchoring up near beaches
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That's a helluva length of rope to carry and manage. My anchor line is about 40m, I work off of the premise, that nowhere that I can think of goes from hitting something hard to 100m in no distance. At 100m depth, I'm way off and getting on the wireless or getting my boating buddy to chuck me a line.
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17 April 2014, 22:50
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its all about scope, 3:1 is absolute minimum - so 30m depth requires 90m rope.
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17 April 2014, 22:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
That's a helluva length of rope to carry and manage. My anchor line is about 40m, I work off of the premise, that nowhere that I can think of goes from hitting something hard to 100m in no distance. At 100m depth, I'm way off and getting on the wireless or getting my boating buddy to chuck me a line.
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Horses for courses, if one boats in my patch, 75-100m depth can be VERY close to shore - nasty shore at that....
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17 April 2014, 22:59
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Horses for courses, if one boats in my patch, 75-100m depth can be VERY close to shore - nasty shore at that....
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Best avoided, that place.
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17 April 2014, 23:04
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thanks
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Originally Posted by Barrowboy
Keep up. His pride and joy was swinging about in front of him as he ran down the beach. It was his Rib that had disappeared...
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I was gonna call my next Searider Pride and Joy after a SRV song ive gone right off the idea now.
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17 April 2014, 23:07
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I was gonna call my next Searider Pride and Joy after a SRV song ive gone right off the idea now.
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Pics available on request.
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18 April 2014, 00:17
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Quote:
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That's a helluva length of rope to carry and manage.
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Doesn't all have to be in one length though, which makes it a bit easier.
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18 April 2014, 07:56
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I keep a 30m length attached to the anchor, along with 10 m of chain. I then have another 20m length that can extend if required.
I also have the sea anchor that would be used until we'd drifted in far enough for the length of line on board.
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18 April 2014, 08:06
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Quote:
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I keep a 30m length attached to the anchor, along with 10 m of chain. I then have another 20m length that can extend if required.
I also have the sea anchor that would be used until we'd drifted in far enough for the length of line on board.
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isnt a sea anchor designed to slow your drift? and what if you never drift IN, only OUT?
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18 April 2014, 08:45
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You've all commented on how much rope but what about types of anchor?. I've got two bins, one for normal cruising area and then put the other one on when I'm going somewhere I don't know that well, when I moor up for a beach landing I have a quick drive by to have a look for depth, rocks etc, then I drive away from the beach, throw the anchor out and back into the beach, I take the other anchor with me when I go ashore, job done, well in most cases, had some good feck ups
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18 April 2014, 09:49
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Quote:
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Doesn't all have to be in one length though, which makes it a bit easier.
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I do have another 30 odd on there. :-)
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18 April 2014, 10:50
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Quote:
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Lads, it was her idea of a romantic eve,
I wasn't fully up for it,
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Nah too easy!
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