Round ireland 2013 - Page 8

kerny · 17 February 2013, 08:56

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

LOL! Agreed. However it won the in my boat unfortunately.

ermm

don't you mean daddy's boat!!

Chris Caton · 17 February 2013, 11:45

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Originally Posted by kerny

ermm

don't you mean daddy's boat!!

now then Kerny

rocknrolla · 17 February 2013, 11:53

:[QUOTE=kerny;517267]ermm

don't you mean daddy's boat!!

HUMBER P4VWL · 17 February 2013, 14:32

Better that than the bank's!

Certainly wont be anyway.

Gilles · 21 February 2013, 16:11

great great great, as they will be a lot of people you will recognize my boat ....

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

LOL! Agreed. However it won the in my boat unfortunately. It's too much time and money for me I'm afraid. But you may well see me in part of the journey.

Boatnomad · 21 February 2013, 21:07

Petrol average price=€161.9

Its up & down,like going around Ireland

Pumps.ie - Ireland's fuel price website

Daibheid · 28 February 2013, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Cetus

Has anyone done any navigational planning for RIPRC 2013 already? I found a link that might be useful for just getting started:

In Your Footsteps

It is a waypoint list for the allegedly "most efficient round Ireland sailing route", resulting in a circumnavigation distance of only 681 nautical miles. So it's basically jumping from headland to headland! But I think, Hugo wants us to do better than that. Has anyone found a more suitable waypoint list for our purposes?

Hope to see many of you in Ireland
Joachim, Team Cetus

Dunno about the Mizzen head "way" point - I know the area but I'd give it another bit West

Ribliam · 28 February 2013, 23:13

Knowing this area fairly well I agree with Daibhead keep it west before turning the headland..

Cetus · 01 March 2013, 07:37

Thanks to both of you (Daibheid + Ribliam) for sharing your local knowledge. Your remarks are duly noted. But how much more west is a bit west. Are we talking cables or miles here

and what would be the dangers if passing closer to the headland?

willk · 01 March 2013, 12:57

Cetus. I think you should mark a few of those waypoints on a chart and decide for yourself. I've looked at the Tory co-ords and have to agree with the lads - I'd give it a wider berth...

Ribochet · 01 March 2013, 16:16

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Originally Posted by willk

Cetus. I think you should mark a few of those waypoints on a chart and decide for yourself.

A big +1 for that

Daibheid · 01 March 2013, 20:49

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Originally Posted by Cetus

Thanks to both of you (Daibheid + Ribliam) for sharing your local knowledge. Your remarks are duly noted. But how much more west is a bit west. Are we talking cables or miles here

and what would be the dangers if passing closer to the headland?

If you look at the actual waypoint quoted for Mizzen head you'll see I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek - it's nearly plumb on top of the Mizzen light and that area is already littered with wrecks. You can pass in very close to the head in a power boat as it gets very deep at the shore so a couple of hundred meters from any visible rock will give you loads of room as long as you're coasting North West. If following the shore to head East into Dunmanus Bay or even North to Casteltownbere keep an eye out for the Bulig rock - breaks big time in a swell.

With the wrong tide vs wind combination Mizzen Head can get extremely lumpy - the sort of waves that can dump into a boat - when it might be wise to stand off half a mile. Sailing it's wise to give it about a mile as the tide can be ferocious.

The scenery is spectacular.

Ribliam · 01 March 2013, 21:19

As Daibhead has said you can stay in quite close to Mizen Head once you have visibility but if the viz is down for any reason probably best to keep a half km South West of the headland coming from the Dursey side, also agree it can get quite lumpy at the Mizen depending on what stage tide is at.

I should be at my boat tomorrow and will get co-ords from my last trip from Dingle to Crookhaven,on this run I would have went through the Dursey sound rather than out around Dursey Island.

Once you leave Dursey plot a course straight across to just SW of Mizen Head.

Looking at the waypoint list wp 5 is for the Fastnet Rock, is the plan to go out around the rock ?

Waypoint 5: Fastnet Rock, 51° 23.250' N, 009° 36.500' W
Waypoint 6: Mizen Head, 51° 27.000' N, 009° 49.250' W

Brian · 02 March 2013, 09:06

Yes, give the Head a clear berth !
Here is one I took a few years ago from well off-shore on a calm day.

TomLinley · 02 March 2013, 11:05

Please remember each morning there will be a drivers briefing. This will choose the correct course for each leg, taking into account the weather and tides of tat day.

Boats will be paired up with less experienced teams paired with more experienced crews. There is some fantastic coastline to explore, however safety of the crews will be put first.

Cetus · 02 March 2013, 11:43

Thank you all, once again, for contributing your local expertise!

TomLinley is of course rightfully mentioning the daily briefings. But one also has to remember the general setup of RIPRC 2013. HMS stated in his initial overwiew that each team must be able to navigate in difficult or testing conditions alone. Therefore he encourages each team to prepare for every eventuality and the need to function alone if for some reason they are separated from the rest of the flotilla. I personally think this is a very straightforward and reasonable concept.

So I will definitely have my own navigational planning in place for each leg of the event. Since I've never been to Irish waters before with my RIBCRAFT 4.8 (but have cruised extensively in many coastal and offshore sea areas around NL, B, F, England and Scotland) I need any bit of local expertise you guys are willing to share to make my, and hopefully everybody else's, navigational planning for each leg safer and better than I/we could do on our own by just using the Imray charts, Reeds and so on.

I would like to suggest that any Emerald Isle based rib enthusiast willing to share his local experience and expertise for any leg of RIPRC 2013 should do so in the coming weeks.

Thanks again for your support and best regards from wintry Germany

Joachim, Team CETUS

willk · 02 March 2013, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Cetus

I would like to suggest that any Emerald Isle based rib enthusiast willing to share his local experience and expertise for any leg of RIPRC 2013 should do so in the coming weeks.

Cetus, the waypoint for Tory Island is on land and I can't be bothered checking any more. I think that you should check the waypoints yourself before asking the locals to do your work for you. Perhaps you should make a route yourself and then ask us if we can help?

tonto · 02 March 2013, 14:03

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Originally Posted by willk

Cetus, the waypoint for Tory Island is on land and I can't be bothered checking any more. I think that you should check the waypoints yourself before asking the locals to do your work for you. Perhaps you should make a route yourself and then ask us if we can help?

+1

Part of being a competent navigator is being able to look at the charts, and pilot books, and any other sources of information, and being able to plan a SAFE voyage. it may not be the most scenic or most efficient, but should be safe.

After you plan your voyage, you can seek local assistance and guidance to refine your passage, but dont forget you are in charge of the voyage, so if you follow someones poor advice blindly, you are still responsible.

However local knowledge is great for giving tips and advice on passages, or taking routes you might otherwise not be comfortable doing on your own.

jambo · 02 March 2013, 14:34

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Originally Posted by willk

Cetus, the waypoint for Tory Island is on land and I can't be bothered checking any more. I think that you should check the waypoints yourself before asking the locals to do your work for you. Perhaps you should make a route yourself and then ask us if we can help?

Yes a big plus one to that comment. By all means ask for help but after you have had a go yourself just to check. You will never get far if you cannot competently plot a safe course. We are all here to help each other but you must show willingness first.

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tonymac · 02 March 2013, 15:09

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Originally Posted by willk

Cetus, the waypoint for Tory Island is on land and I can't be bothered checking any more. I think that you should check the waypoints yourself before asking the locals to do your work for you. Perhaps you should make a route yourself and then ask us if we can help?

King of Tory, Patsy Dan, would just LOVE to have you all for supper! Bring your own hovercraft and follow the line to the waypoint

Make sure you buy him a wee one along with his pint in the club.

On the serious note, yep I agree with Willk. Plan your own route - let us have a look and we can make suggestions after you have completed it.