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03 September 2013, 14:08
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It's true-he did raise a lot of money for charity and shedloads of credit is due for that.
However,I'm confused about the apparent need to talk utter unsubstantiated bollocks on top of the huge achievement then selectively hiding stuff after the event.
Is that how he sold it to the sponsors?
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03 September 2013, 14:10
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Originally Posted by MustRib
His Facebook page says they are
RNLI,.......
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Seems fitting...
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03 September 2013, 18:04
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No no , the total event raised 48 k for charity, no specific mention of any money raised by by the Mazda team .
Seems a terrible kick in the teeth to the other participants to read in the press that they " lost " a race they didn't enter, certainly not a very charitable move from TMS to his fellow " challengers" .
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03 September 2013, 18:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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Originally Posted by RobinB
No no , the total event raised 48 k for charity, no specific mention of any money raised by by the Mazda team .
Seems a terrible kick in the teeth to the other participants to read in the press that they " lost " a race they didn't enter, certainly not a very charitable move from TMS to his fellow " challengers" .
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Ohhhhh..... right. I apologise to anyone reading this that did the RI2013 then, seems I was taken in by more typographical testiculating from the Capering Crusader.
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03 September 2013, 18:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinB
No no , the total event raised 48 k for charity, no specific mention of any money raised by by the Mazda team .
Seems a terrible kick in the teeth to the other participants to read in the press that they " lost " a race they didn't enter, certainly not a very charitable move from TMS to his fellow " challengers" .
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ahh..just re-read that on the facebook page....
I think Tom was raising money for Great Ormond Street though.
She's done it. All in one piece, the boat handled brilliantly and the event raised £45,300 for charities; RNLI, Great Ormond Street & No More Traffic.
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03 September 2013, 18:52
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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
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Probably difficult to speak when your head's stuck in such a warm dark place
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03 September 2013, 20:25
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03 September 2013, 22:44
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Added my comment...
Did any of the fellow competitors know it was a "race" and they were being "beaten" ?
To seek a positive spin at the conclusion of the event to satisfy your sponsors is fine but to claim a "victory" over colleagues and compatriots who did not know they were in a competition, did not have access to the same commercial advantages, had made far greater sacrifices just to take part and those who toughed it out over EVERY LEG UNAIDED, is just a hollow, self seeking sham and one from which the sponsors should seek to distance themselves.
Poor form. It seems to run in the family !
Now, about those 75mph winds.....
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03 September 2013, 23:03
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I'd be interested to know how he got hold of 'biodegradable fuel' for the boat as well. Didn't he fill from the same tanker as everyone else?
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03 September 2013, 23:14
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
I'd be interested to know how he got hold of 'biodegradable fuel' for the boat as well. Didn't he fill from the same tanker as everyone else?
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Not the day they went to Galway. .. ?
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04 September 2013, 00:00
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
I'd be interested to know how he got hold of 'biodegradable fuel' for the boat as well. Didn't he fill from the same tanker as everyone else?
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all fuel is biodegradable....
.....eventually
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04 September 2013, 09:35
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Steedy up lads. TMS is in the business of self publication this is his job. If he has embelished the truth to help fund his trip around Ireland and his product ( the modified rib/ rib modification service) I say Good Luck to him. Has he done any harm to anyone? No,
Did it take away from the enjoyment of the Event by those that took part? I suspect not.
Did he raise money for a good cause? Yes
Do we all get up in arms every time we read shite/ see it on the telly? I dont think so
This is not a mortal sin. A sin, yes, but not a mortal sin.
TSM
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04 September 2013, 10:43
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Blimey Two Stroke, you in training for the priesthood?
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04 September 2013, 10:44
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Not any more the money is not what it was
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04 September 2013, 12:07
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Originally Posted by two stroke mick
Steedy up lads. TMS is in the business of self publication this is his job.
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anyone in the business of self promotion has to carry the risk that when you go too far it will backfire - there is a famous quote about "for evil to triumph all that is required is for good men to do nothing". The same concept applies and for the lies to be believes all that is required is for those who know the truth to ignore them.
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If he has embelished the truth to help fund his trip around Ireland and his product ( the modified rib/ rib modification service) I say Good Luck to him.
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well there is embellishment and blatant lies.
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Has he done any harm to anyone?
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Well I think he has. The next person who has a genuine challenge and goes looking for sponsorship now has a higher hurdle to cross; however the biggest harm - as the reality becomes known could be to Mazda's reputation.
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Do we all get up in arms every time we read shite/ see it on the telly? I dont think so
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are you kidding this is the internet - but I have been known to shout at the telly when it talks nonsense too.
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04 September 2013, 12:12
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I've got to agree with TSM's very reasoned words. I think everyone soon learns that if something is issued by anyone concerned with PR there will be a liberal sprinkling of fairy dust in the editing (I've just done it myself as "fairy dust" was not my first expression).
I don't know about anyone else but I found myself absolutely enthralled by the tales on here from (Oops! Almost said the competitors) the participants. Everyday on here we were treated to riveting narratives of the adventure.
When you consider all the effort it takes to organise an affair of this size and complexity I am more than willing to cut some slack especially so since I know that the memories of the venturers stoic bravery will well outlast any thoughts of PR fluff.
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04 September 2013, 12:28
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It sounds as if young Tom has gone to the same school as Bear. After a long time of being educated you come out with a degree that's instructs you never to let the truth get in the way of a good story. Its a shame that this new breed of "Adventurer " have to resort to down right bull shit to claim their place as self proclaimed Herod. We live in a world of lies and damned lies. Alan P
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04 September 2013, 13:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Priddy
It sounds as if young Tom has gone to the same school as Bear. After a long time of being educated you come out with a degree that's instructs you never to let the truth get in the way of a good story. Its a shame that this new breed of "Adventurer " have to resort to down right bull shit to claim their place as self proclaimed Herod. We live in a world of lies and damned lies. Alan P
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Well said.
I have had the pleasure of meeting Sir Ranulph Fiennes twice and hearing him talk to an audience of some of his adventures. Oh how i would like him to meet the "linley - swan - montgomery" joined up surnamed, pretentious wannabee double barrelled family and put them in their place.
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04 September 2013, 13:57
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04 September 2013, 14:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Priddy
It sounds as if young Tom has gone to the same school as Bear. After a long time of being educated you come out with a degree that's instructs you never to let the truth get in the way of a good story. Its a shame that this new breed of "Adventurer " have to resort to down right bull shit to claim their place as self proclaimed Herod. We live in a world of lies and damned lies. Alan P
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Nothing new there then; Donald Crowhurst was doing this 40 odd years ago. Ended with insanity and suicide as I recall.
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