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20 September 2004, 02:04
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Rubbing strake???
Anyone got a solution for gluing my rubbing strake onto the Bow so that when I stuff the it doesn't keep falling off? Will post pics tomorrow evening.
Andy
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20 September 2004, 02:17
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Nail it on ......!!!!!
Sorry could not resist
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20 September 2004, 08:52
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.....................or don't stuff it.
Neither could I.
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20 September 2004, 08:55
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You 2 will get that strake tied round yer necks for that disgraceful advice
missus
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Happy New Resolutions!!! : RIBbing for the craic!!!
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20 September 2004, 09:00
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20 September 2004, 10:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackeens
You 2 will get that strake tied round yer necks for that disgraceful advice
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Serves him right for getting all shirty when we tried to moor along side him in Ryde. Said he had finished his cup of tea and was about to go. Didn't even offer us a cup.
Hightower
PM Stephen-RIB. He has glue and will travel. He did not think his repair would last long on my cone, but he was wrong.
Good to see you on the water yesterday. Sorry about the above and further above.
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20 September 2004, 13:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Jackeens
You 2 will get that strake tied round yer necks for that disgraceful advice
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Yeh, will take the offending item up to the Church next time nfor the before said Quote!
As I said ealier I'll post pics tonight that better explains things, but basicly where the bottom strake glues onto is the seam of the tubes and is fairly "wavey" so will only glue on the crests.
Quote: Serves him right for getting all shirty when we tried to moor along side him in Ryde. Said he had finished his cup of tea and was about to go. Didn't even offer us a cup.
Mark you didn't pay your mooring fee's!! Sorry .
Andy
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20 September 2004, 20:44
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Here are photo's as promissed. Tell me what you think?
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20 September 2004, 20:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
Anyone got a solution for gluing my rubbing strake onto the Bow ...
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Good pun.
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20 September 2004, 20:58
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That's not white pvc stuck to red hypalon, by chance, is it?
Is the glue tacky or hard and brittle?
If not, cut the old adhesive back completely on both surfaces and start over with the gluing process. All the info you need on gluing is on this site. Do a search.
One addition I would make is; to get the very best joint, preglue the surfaces and allow them to cure before going through the normal gluing process.
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20 September 2004, 21:13
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try removing all old glue ,prime with new glue ,leave for an hour reglue and bond together then tape bottom edge of strake with 2inch tape half on tube half on strake ,phone me on 07815144269 if you need further explanation
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20 September 2004, 21:26
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Yes it is white PVC and I did pay a "professional" guy to re-stick the strake several weeks ago at a cost of £50 (not bad for 15mins work ). I must admit that I'm not completely happy with the design of the front fender arrangement but didn't expect to strake to come off so quickly after the repair. Will call him back up tomorrow and get him to repair again!
What I'm looking for on this thread are possibly, different ways that I can make a longer term repair, maybe different "heavy duty" Straking around the bow that would give protection and strengh to the bow when stuffing through a wave! Any suggestions please?
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20 September 2004, 22:09
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Bring it over to the yard and we'll have a go. I'll trade you hours for your skills
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20 September 2004, 22:23
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Stu, if it aint fixed this time I'll hold you good to your word but am on the twilight of some serious time away with my company and won't be around until Xmas. But if this repair doesn't last this time I will look at a re-design and will probably call Wilks rubbers and see what they suggest, may be a Wave peircing rubber attatchment that makes the waves part to let me though.
Andy
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20 September 2004, 23:28
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Hightower, if done properly it will stay put. A PVC/ hypalon joint requires a different technique. Again do a search, it's all here.
If he only took 15mins, he deliberately ripped you off or he didn't know what he was doing. Or both.
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21 September 2004, 20:40
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John, phoned the guy that did the work, today! He said that he was suprised that it failed and offered to come back and repair it again (this time it better stay put). He is quite a well known repairer for around these parts and specializes in Rib and inflaterble repairs, so will give him the benefit of the dought this time but if it happens again!!! Trouble is the Rib won't be sea trialed again till Chrismas (Hogmanay (excuse spelling)).
Andy
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21 September 2004, 21:38
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Make sure he knows they are dissimilar materials.
If necessary, introduce him to ribnet.
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22 September 2004, 02:17
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John, I can always use Ribnet as a "squeeze" for last resort. If ya in the industry you wouldn't want to make an enemy of a Ribnetter would you!! . The guy seemed genuingly upset that his work didn't last, so as they say.....We'll see!
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23 September 2004, 12:51
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The ONLY glue to use is Bostick 2402 glue. Various company re-brand it and sell it.
The main criteria is to ensure old glue is removed both surfaces, fine sandpaper to increase the surface area, clean using paint thinners then apply a coat to both surfaces. Wait thirty mins or until both are tacky then re-apply and press both surfaces together for as long as possible.
You should spend more time on the preparation than the actual gluing. Dont think about using the boat for at least 48hrs. If its a SIB dont roll it up either! (This is called a SIB Fajita!)
The first time you do it glue seems to get everywhere but you need to make sure you glue to the very edges of the patch. (You can rub it off as it goes hard) Rubber gloves seem to be a bad idea as the hardener melts them.
PM me if you want some help
Chris
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Glue Removal
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Andy,
I've got a similar problem to what you had with the rubbing strake.
I'm going to remove the whole strake and replace it with a new one.
How did you remove all that old glue ?
I have found this and wondered if it would be any use.
(See Attached)
Or did you use a chemical or sander ?
Soft nylon rotary brush to remove excess glue. Fits into standard drill
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