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10 May 2020, 15:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: WOLF
Make: QUINQUARI HUMBER 8.5
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 200
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 27
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Scorpion 8.1 Help Wanted Please
Help Please.
Does anyone know this boat? 8.1m Scorpion Sharkey / Sharkeys Revenge.
I am considering buying it and have found conflicting informqtion on the web regarding her age. The current broker says she is a 2002 but ive found an old advert for the same boat claiming 1998.
Its also had two very recent retubes/refits if the posts are correct. Should I be hearing alarm bells? Is the Price good value if it is a 1998.
Will Scorpion be able to help can I trace the hull number, were they sold with hull certification numbers?
Does anyone here have personal experience of this boat please, any information would be greatly recieved.
https://www.inautia.com/used-boat-27...021005745.html
Used Boats and Yachts for Sale
Thanks all in advance
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10 May 2020, 21:18
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
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The last two digits of the hull identification number (HIN) are the year. It should be printed/stamped onto the boat in at least two locations. One being somewhere on the transom. It'll be 12 digits long.
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11 May 2020, 11:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: WOLF
Make: QUINQUARI HUMBER 8.5
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 200
Join Date: May 2020
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Thanks Tim,
I will certainly be checking all I can. Maybe the broker is bigging it up a bit for a better sale price?
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11 May 2020, 12:10
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
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At that age I wouldn't think a 4 year difference in age would make much difference on price. Possibly just an honest mistake? I'd check it out and go from there; if he got something as simple as the age wrong are the other details he's given you about the condition of the boat correct?
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11 May 2020, 13:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: WOLF
Make: QUINQUARI HUMBER 8.5
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 200
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 27
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Thanks Tim,
Just noticed engine hours in the old advert are 320 and now mysteriously only 200?
I think im gonna have to invest in full marine survey and engine diagnostic to be safe.
Its defiinatly the same engine, can they be "clocked" like cars were?
Thanks for the helpful advice!
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11 May 2020, 14:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Winchester
Boat name: The Rubber Duck
Make: Avon 3.10
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 9.8
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 703
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Originally Posted by SolentShark
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Its defiinatly the same engine, can they be "clocked" like cars were?
Thanks for the helpful advice!
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Not sure they can, but a new gauge can be fitted, this was my concern when I bought my engine with only 67 hours on it. The gauge(s) were showing signs of UV damage around the edges so I think they are a matching pair of the same age and probably original, but in truth who knows.
Compression test on each cylinder is probably the best test you can do.
BTW - Looks a lovely boat.
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11 May 2020, 15:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: WOLF
Make: QUINQUARI HUMBER 8.5
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 200
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 27
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Thanks for all the advice,
I am just too unsure about it, so not taking this one any further.
Ive just put an offer on this.
2008 Quinuari Built Humber 8.5m | Parker Adams Boat Sales
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11 May 2020, 18:13
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Boat name: Clear Dawn
Make: Cormate
Length: 7m +
Engine: Verado 200
MMSI: 235924981
Join Date: Feb 2016
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I guess you already know this but if the engine was serviced by any main agent, the full service history including hours run is in their main database.
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11 May 2020, 18:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: WOLF
Make: QUINQUARI HUMBER 8.5
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 200
Join Date: May 2020
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Thanks Ferryman,
No I did not know that. If the Humber offer is rejected then the scorpion still might be worth a look.
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11 May 2020, 18:46
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Member
Country: France
Town: Côte d'Azur
Boat name: Beaver Patrol
Make: Avon Searider SR4
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jan 2004
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The hours will be stored in the engine's ECU. It's possible it had a new ECU which would have zero'd the hours. But as per the above, further details may be obtainable by getting a Honda dealer to plug it in.
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12 May 2020, 08:29
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Country: UK - England
Length: 7m +
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Ask to look at the service log for the engine, that would show hours, maybe a mistake or maybe not, if not then walk away.
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12 May 2020, 10:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: ocean pro 6.3
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140hp suzuki
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 824
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I like the Humber, looks a lovely boat and a great size for ploughing through the rough stuff!
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12 May 2020, 13:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: WOLF
Make: QUINQUARI HUMBER 8.5
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 200
Join Date: May 2020
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Offer Accepted - lets hope the channel islands are not off limits this summer!
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12 May 2020, 14:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: ocean pro 6.3
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140hp suzuki
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Offer accepted on the Humber? If so lovely boat - hope to see you on the Solent! I have it’s baby brother, a 6.3m ocean pro, but currently out of commission undergoing a refurb
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12 May 2020, 14:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: WOLF
Make: QUINQUARI HUMBER 8.5
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 200
Join Date: May 2020
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Quote:
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Offer accepted on the Humber? If so lovely boat - hope to see you on the Solent! I have it’s baby brother, a 6.3m ocean pro, but currently out of commission undergoing a refurb
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Defo see you out there, hopefully soon, i`ll keep an eye out!
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12 May 2020, 18:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
Make: Halmatic P22
Length: 6m +
Engine: Inboard Diesel 240HP
MMSI: 235115642
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 1,777
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Not that I want to create confusion but have you seen Bushrider's Scorpion?
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12 May 2020, 18:38
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Member
Country: UK - Isle of Man
Town: Peel, IOM
Length: no boat
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,511
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Guyc-why?
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"Ribbing-the most expensive way of travelling third class"
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12 May 2020, 19:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,166
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian
Guyc-why?
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It’s for sale
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12 May 2020, 19:46
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Boat name: Clear Dawn
Make: Cormate
Length: 7m +
Engine: Verado 200
MMSI: 235924981
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 364
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I’ve only been in a couple of them but strictly IMO, the Scorpion is a different breed of rib in rough seas!!??
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12 May 2020, 21:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: WOLF
Make: QUINQUARI HUMBER 8.5
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2x 200
Join Date: May 2020
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Would have loved a Scorpion, but to be fair to get into a good twin outboard model my budget is just too low.
The QuinQuari Humber 8.5 does it all for me. Twin redundancy of everything set up for serious ofshore passsge.
It makes France and the Channel islands achievable and safe from the Solent with the kids. But to be fair Id do it in tandem in my 6m Tornado. My brother and I regulary do the Mid Channel Rips for a spot of Summer Cod Drifting.
I`ll be very happy in the Humber and keep saving for the Scorpion.
See you all out there soon.
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