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20 September 2007, 13:20
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
And quite a few people do, because that's what they want. Horses for courses . . .
Easy. They have no problem selling all the boats they can make. What more justification do you want?
You don't want to buy one, which is fine. I think most people have got the message now.
John
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No Jk you have TOTALLY missed the point!!!
If I didn't have my boat I would seriously consider a Scorpion like in the photo below - a stunning boat.
My comments had nothing to do with my dislike for the way Scorpion treated me!!!
Even if that cabin RIB had been built by Pascoe or Revenger I would say the same. Firstly they are getting away from a true RIB and secondly I really can't see how they can justify charging so much for what is a pretty basic boat when compared to a Fairline or Hunton.
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20 September 2007, 13:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portishead/Falmouth
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Originally Posted by codprawn
I really can't see how they can justify charging so much for what is a pretty basic boat when compared to a Fairline or Hunton.
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Have to say I agree to an extent, but as they simply charge what people are willing to pay maybe we should rephrase this thus:
"I really can't see why people are prepared to pay so much for what is a pretty basic boat when compared to a Fairline or Hunton."
p.s. Disclaimer: Hands up, I've never driven one either!
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20 September 2007, 13:39
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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Originally Posted by alexm
Have to say I agree to an extent, but as they simply charge what people are willing to pay maybe we should rephrase this thus:
"I really can't see why people are prepared to pay so much for what is a pretty basic boat when compared to a Fairline or Hunton."
p.s. Disclaimer: Hands up, I've never driven one either!
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Good point!!!
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20 September 2007, 14:16
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Guernsey
Boat name: Monkey Nutz
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Length: 8m +
Engine: 350Sci Verado
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But its the same old arguement again..Why have a landrover when you can have a Range Rover, why shop at Asda when you can shop at Marks, why buy a 26 inch tv if you can afford a 50inch?
If people can afford to pick and choose between a plastic tub or a high quality rib such as a Scorpion or any other cabin rib so be it..
Life is a blast....work hard-play hard..
Tony
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20 September 2007, 14:20
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Member
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Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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If you think a Hunton is a plastic tub you are VERY mistaken!!! They have a pretty good record in offshore powerboat racing - especially in the rough stuff!!!
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20 September 2007, 14:31
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Guernsey
Boat name: Monkey Nutz
Make: Cougar R8 Sport
Length: 8m +
Engine: 350Sci Verado
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Have a read of this months Rib International. It reviews the Arctic Blue 37 cabin rib. I am sure the Scorpion "Sting" is as good as or better.
It may change your mind....
ps if you can't find one, i'll send you my copy once i'm done....
Tony
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20 September 2007, 15:02
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Town: Poole
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Tony
Having owned a Scorpion and now a Hunton I can tell you they are both fantastic boats.
You only have to look at the Round Britain entrance list to see that both manufacturers are well represented. I'm sure Scorpion have the most boats and might be followed by Hunton. Also both company owners will be taking part.
I have driven in some rough seas in the Scorpion and always had full confidence it would more than cope. The Hunton seems to have a better ride than the Scorpion but this may well be due to length and weight.
They both have pro's and con's but the Hunton is a Great British boat, as is the Scorpion.
Cheers
Mark
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20 September 2007, 15:38
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Guernsey
Boat name: Monkey Nutz
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Engine: 350Sci Verado
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I think Cods first reference to Hunton was more along the lines of Gin palace cabin cruiser rather than the racing thouroughbred. If you love using a rib all year round and you want a cabin, it makes sence to buy a "Cabin Rib" with some pedigree. Agreed they come at a cost, but the people buying them will love them and use them, and not leave them in the marina for ten months of the year.
Tony
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20 September 2007, 15:49
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Originally Posted by codprawn
No Jk you have TOTALLY missed the point!!!
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I don't think so!
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If I didn't have my boat I would seriously consider a Scorpion like in the photo below - a stunning boat.
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How could you possibly justify that for the money?
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My comments had nothing to do with my dislike for the way Scorpion treated me!!!
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I didn't suggest for a moment that they did.
Maybe you're the one missing the point? Or possibly getting a point that doesn't exist . . .
John
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20 September 2007, 16:06
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Town: Newfoundland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John Kennett
Maybe you're the one missing the point? Or possibly getting a point that doesn't exist . . .
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Or just further pointlessly fulminating in an indignant and self righteous rage about something. Anything.
I worry for Codders heart and blood pressure at times. I really do.
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20 September 2007, 16:34
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Town: inn wiliks hed
Make: Redbay 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Twin Etec 90hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan
Or just further pointlessly fulminating in an indignant and self righteous rage about something.
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wots yer poynt
gaRf
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20 September 2007, 16:47
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Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I think Cods first reference to Hunton was more along the lines of Gin palace cabin cruiser rather than the racing thouroughbred. If you love using a rib all year round and you want a cabin, it makes sence to buy a "Cabin Rib" with some pedigree. Agreed they come at a cost, but the people buying them will love them and use them, and not leave them in the marina for ten months of the year.
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Hunton do NOT make Gin Palaces!!!
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20 September 2007, 18:33
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Guernsey
Boat name: Monkey Nutz
Make: Cougar R8 Sport
Length: 8m +
Engine: 350Sci Verado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Hunton do NOT make Gin Palaces!!!
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Hehehhhehhe, watch that blood pressure!!
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20 September 2007, 18:45
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Town: inn wiliks hed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
watch that blood pressure!!
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att dis mowmint inn tyme uvverwize nowen az noww orl dem welch nobburs av gott sum blud presher izunt itt cuz thers bin a owtbrake ov welch wimmin getin pregnunt evun de bigg fatt munters sinse de sheepies orl gott fut an mowf diseez
gaRf
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20 September 2007, 18:53
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Make: humber
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Engine: optimax 150
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I would love a big cabin rib, but I think they loose some of the thrill of a small boat. Was out in a huge ocean dynamics rib with a cabin etc. Really impressive rough water handling but i felt it was as much fun as being on the fast ferry from Stranraer to Belfast. I think when it comes to ribs there is an optimum size and that is about 7.5-8 m
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20 September 2007, 21:19
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Town: Colchester/Clevedon
Boat name: Barracuda
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Engine: Tohatsu 50hp
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Originally Posted by iainmartins
I think when it comes to ribs there is an optimum size and that is about 7.5-8 m
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This month's Rib International mentioned that Shearwater will be producing a full cabin RIB (as opposed to their current small central cabin) in the future. still based on the 7 / 8 metre Ring hull
I expect it'll be a little more reasonably priced than the Scorp as well.
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20 September 2007, 21:44
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Town: swansea
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One of the main reason I went for a RIB in the first place was to get as much deck space as possible - having a cabin means you lose 1/2 the boat. I think the ideal design is a walkaround - maybe like the Protectors or the Shearwater but if you want a decent sized cabin and still be able to walk around it you need a big boat.
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20 September 2007, 21:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
One of the main reason I went for a RIB in the first place was to get as much deck space as possible
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A Whiteshark or similar centre console would have been best for deck space. RIBs have fairly little for their hull length due to the narror internal beam.
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20 September 2007, 22:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Forest
Boat name: Charlie Brown
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 275 Verado
MMSI: 235069179
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,082
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i looked at the Shearwater before i bought charlie brown and there is no doubt its a good looking rib. although i havent seen it close. i gather its very good build quality too so all round its a good rib.
The article in Rib Intl does say it may not be suited to offshore cruising whereas i believe the scorpion is! (based on experience with my own)
i fear this has gone off topic now as they original question was about a particular scorpion cabin rib!
for what its worth, i would love a ride in a cabin scorpion. maybe one day i will be able to afford one!!
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20 September 2007, 22:56
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So getting back on Topic, how about this Ugly mother of a Scorpion RIB
Still, it did have some taste and have a brace of 300 Yams hanging off the back
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