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29 June 2007, 23:56
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Originally Posted by qcamel
Why bother? Your critics dont believe you and your supporters dont care....
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New customers might!!!
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30 June 2007, 05:32
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Guernsey
Boat name: Monkey Nutz
Make: Cougar R8 Sport
Length: 8m +
Engine: 350Sci Verado
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 931
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Originally Posted by codprawn
New customers might!!!
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Until you have lived the dream, you shouldn't pass judgment.
If you bought a Scorpion you would understand what we all mean. As for defending themselves the customers will always do that for them....
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30 June 2007, 07:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 673
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Maybe there is but why didn't anyone from Scorpion bother defending themselves? I most certainly would. Yes I agree they were giving their boat some very serious abuse but then again Scorpion were obviously aware of what the boat was used for. They don't seem to have the same trouble with their Revengers.
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The Scorpion I had was a great boat and believe they are the best RIB on the UK market.
As to why Scorpion don't reply on here I'd imagine it's a combination of
1) It won't make any difference to their sales
2) If the owner had an issue take it up with them and if he isn't satisfied follow up with a legal approach
3) Don't think Graham needs to appease a load of grumpy old git's with nothing else to do
At the end of the day I'm sure Rolls Royce can make a bad car but that doesn't mean there not the best cars ( not my choice but hey... )
Cheers
Mark
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30 June 2007, 13:07
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Originally Posted by MarkWildey
The Scorpion I had was a great boat and believe they are the best RIB on the UK market.
As to why Scorpion don't reply on here I'd imagine it's a combination of
1) It won't make any difference to their sales
2) If the owner had an issue take it up with them and if he isn't satisfied follow up with a legal approach
3) Don't think Graham needs to appease a load of grumpy old git's with nothing else to do
At the end of the day I'm sure Rolls Royce can make a bad car but that doesn't mean there not the best cars ( not my choice but hey... )
Cheers
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It could make a difference to their sales. If I had been treated better by them at Ribex and if I had heard the other side of the story about the boat with problems I too could have been a customer.
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30 June 2007, 13:14
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Member
Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Make: KR7
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude 150 H.O
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 735
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Scorpion nr.1
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30 June 2007, 13:38
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Member
Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Make: KR7
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude 150 H.O
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Originally Posted by FreeTrader
Interesting posts! I suspect Graham and the Scorpion crew don't defend, because they don't need to.
2 years ago I bought a 10 year old Scorpion, which exceeded all expectations. I live in the Channel Islands, and we get hit with the full fury of the Atlantic. I ran the boat for a full 2 seasons, including winter outings, and it never ever let me down (well the Optimax did, but that's another story ...). The rib itself is built with the most extraordinary attention to detail and build quality.
This year I treated myself to a new 8.5m. I put my old rib, Quick Exit, on the market and sold it in 3 days for £500 less than I bought it for. I've got zero criticisms of the new rib - the pacific rim seat at the stern, and superb build quality makes the boat really stand out (and it's yellow tubes help). The new rib lands better than the old one, it seems to have better weight distribution.
The experience of buying from Joyce (she's amazing!), and Graham's team was an absolute pleasure, and the after-sales service second to none.
I took the last rib through 30' F7 waves (witness to prove), and lived to tell the tale. There's nothing to beat it.
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Do you have the stepped hull?
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30 June 2007, 16:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bradford on Avon
Boat name: tbc
Make: Sunseeker (AshleyD)
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2 x coal burners
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 461
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Originally Posted by codprawn
It could make a difference to their sales. If I had been treated better by them at Ribex
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If I remember rightly that was a few years ago. They now have more sales people at the show (including me ) to ensure that all enquiries are dealt with. I sent you a pm when you mentioned this but unfortunately you didn't have the courtesy to reply...
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Originally Posted by codprawn
and if I had heard the other side of the story about the boat with problems I too could have been a customer.
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Scorpion chose not to respond on this forum - that's their business & we must respect that. For all I know they might not even look at Ribnet.
It's a shame you are not a customer but I'm sure you are happy with your current boat.
Regards
Ian
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30 June 2007, 17:59
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Originally Posted by Brambles
If I remember rightly that was a few years ago. They now have more sales people at the show (including me ) to ensure that all enquiries are dealt with. I sent you a pm when you mentioned this but unfortunately you didn't have the courtesy to reply...
Scorpion chose not to respond on this forum - that's their business & we must respect that. For all I know they might not even look at Ribnet.
It's a shame you are not a customer but I'm sure you are happy with your current boat.
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When did you send the PM - I can't find it!!!
Yes I am very happy with my boat - just not the anus who built it...........
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30 June 2007, 18:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,884
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
If I had been treated better by them at Ribex and if I had heard the other side of the story about the boat with problems I too could have been a customer.
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are you saying you would have gone for a 9m scorpion?
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30 June 2007, 18:31
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
are you saying you would have gone for a 9m scorpion?
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Yes - at the time I was at Ribex I had money to burn sitting in the bank. It would have been Revenger or Scorpion and their red and white 9.75m would have been right up my street but it is the 8.5m I would have bought.
Now if I were to want a new boat(which I don't) it would be a Revenger stepped hull 1st and Scorpion 2nd so I have no bias against their boats themselves.
I do wonder though if the owners of bigger ribs are missing out a bit on the fun factor. Smaller boats are much more nimble - bit like concorde versus a pitts special.
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30 June 2007, 18:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: SOLD
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 794
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Codprawn
What RIB have you got now cant seam to see it on the side bar
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30 June 2007, 18:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 2,884
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Yes - at the time I was at Ribex I had money to burn sitting in the bank. It would have been Revenger or Scorpion and their red and white 9.75m would have been right up my street but it is the 8.5m I would have bought.
Now if I were to want a new boat(which I don't) it would be a Revenger stepped hull 1st and Scorpion 2nd so I have no bias against their boats themselves.
I do wonder though if the owners of bigger ribs are missing out a bit on the fun factor. Smaller boats are much more nimble - bit like concorde versus a pitts special.
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if you had the cash burning a hole in your pocket and could afford a new scorp 8.5 plus then i am surprised you went down the economical route buying the engine you did and getting prosport.
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30 June 2007, 18:40
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
if you had the cash burning a hole in your pocket and could afford a new scorp 8.5 plus then i am surprised you went down the economical route buying the engine you did and getting prosport.
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What is wrong with the engine I have? Why waste money when there is no need? As to Prosport at the time I ordered it they were supposed to be OK to deal with - if I had known what sort of scumbag I was dealing with I would have run a mile.
As it turns out my boat is fantastic - I am annoyed with some minor finishing details but they can easily be put right for less than £1k. The engine is a gem and uses no more fuel than a 4 stroke. I would like a bigger engine because the hull is so good - a 300 for now unless Evinrude bring out a light 350 or 400. I do not want twins as I have said before.
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01 July 2007, 18:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Forest
Boat name: Charlie Brown
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 275 Verado
MMSI: 235069179
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,082
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Well thanks for all the positive replies.
Cod, in all honesty and with no disrespect to others, you have taken some flack on this site for a long time, it seems that every thread comes back in someway to a comment on your boat! if i ever do get up to wales of your down in the solent i wouldnt mind a go!!
Now im back i will try and move this on. hope to see you all on the water soon!
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01 July 2007, 19:34
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Originally Posted by Zippy
Well thanks for all the positive replies.
Cod, in all honesty and with no disrespect to others, you have taken some flack on this site for a long time, it seems that every thread comes back in someway to a comment on your boat! if i ever do get up to wales of your down in the solent i wouldnt mind a go!!
Now im back i will try and move this on. hope to see you all on the water soon!
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Thanks for that - this is the boat that didn't even exist remember and the one the engine would fall off because of the transom jack.............
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01 July 2007, 19:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
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But now you've prooved to all those dis-belivers that, that wasn't the case, how about meeting up for a cruise/drink sometime?
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Looks Slow but is Fast
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01 July 2007, 22:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: SOLD
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 794
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how about a picture
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01 July 2007, 22:58
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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01 July 2007, 23:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: SOLD
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Looks good and thats a fair trailer
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01 July 2007, 23:29
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy Smith
Looks good and thats a fair trailer
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The trailer was VERY VERY kindly loaned to me by John Price of Quinquari as the boat builder claimed a trailer wasn't included in the price. When I showed him the paperwork he turned around and said "Ah but it doesn't say WHAT trailer".....
Unfortunately the Guernsey legal system is somewhat different from the mainland but I haven't forgotten. I now have a mate with a fast private plane and Guernsey is only 1hr away!!!
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