Exactly... there are some videos of the trip he did... I know the electrician who rigged the whole boat, all the wiring for the consol had to be wired with 24" of slack to make up for the shock mitigation.
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
Isn't that what grylls used in his latest adventure?
Not a jockey seat on the video but Shockwave makes numerous different styles of jockey seats...
But if you're planning on going fast in rough weather, why you anyone want to be flailing around on top of a jockey seat (even with suspension) when you could be wedged securely into a shock mitigated bucket seat?
Nick Gilley and the FGT have Shockwave seats in Swipewipes and they seem to have worked well so far.
The number of people who have been ejected from RIBs over the last few years, as engines have got bigger, and speeds higher, really makes me question whether jockey seats are a good choice for anything above moderate speeds.
The number of people who have been ejected from RIBs over the last few years, as engines have got bigger, and speeds higher, really makes me question whether jockey seats are a good choice for anything above moderate speeds.
I have seen plenty of in race footage of people getting ejected out of bucket seats too.
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With regards to this thread. The ICE console is in a league of its own when it comes to shock mitigation. I did the delivery and return legs with the boat and we logged a lot of hours in really bad weather. I dont think we did a leg under 16 hours and the longest was closing in and we had to get out of there. The Bering Sea is no joke - darned near killed us. If it had not been for the ICE console I don't think I would have been able to physically take the pounding over some of the long transits. We wore 4 point harness all the time. Except one of Bear's gang that ended up splitting his head open on the upper switch panel.
As far as ejecting out of boats goes - I have done it a few times before we built Shockwave seats. This does not and will not happen any more because we always belt ourselves in. I saw this save my crew one day when I accidently stuffed the boat real hard. But for the belts everyone would have washed out of the boat.
As far as seatbelts in boat go, I have sat on the fence. However after our last round of testing and from what I have seen, I think they are absolutley nessessary in a shock mitigated environment. I was testing our standard type helm seats (not the ICE) with FOX Float shocks and a new secret electronic system we are soon to release. I could not make the boat slam hard enough to hurt - HOWEVER because you can absorb so much vertical impact the horizontal components become more pronounced. This means to say you get thrown around a lot. When I test (cause I am old and weak) I use a full containment seat that we make and no one buys. I think because it feels real creepy at first to be hemmed in. It takes some getting used to. Have a look a motor racing however and you can see that that is how they prevent injury.
We have some real nice light small jockey seat that do a great job. When the gloves come off and you really need to get somewhere I go with a full seat.
Anyway if anyone wants to talk suspension I am all ears and don't mind sharing what we have learned along the way.
With regards to this thread. The ICE console is in a league of its own when it comes to shock mitigation. I did the delivery and return legs with the boat and we logged a lot of hours in really bad weather. I dont think we did a leg under 16 hours and the longest was closing in and we had to get out of there. The Bering Sea is no joke - darned near killed us. If it had not been for the ICE console I don't think I would have been able to physically take the pounding over some of the long transits. We wore 4 point harness all the time. Except one of Bear's gang that ended up splitting his head open on the upper switch panel.
As far as ejecting out of boats goes - I have done it a few times before we built Shockwave seats. This does not and will not happen any more because we always belt ourselves in. I saw this save my crew one day when I accidently stuffed the boat real hard. But for the belts everyone would have washed out of the boat.
As far as seatbelts in boat go, I have sat on the fence. However after our last round of testing and from what I have seen, I think they are absolutley nessessary in a shock mitigated environment. I was testing our standard type helm seats (not the ICE) with FOX Float shocks and a new secret electronic system we are soon to release. I could not make the boat slam hard enough to hurt - HOWEVER because you can absorb so much vertical impact the horizontal components become more pronounced. This means to say you get thrown around a lot. When I test (cause I am old and weak) I use a full containment seat that we make and no one buys. I think because it feels real creepy at first to be hemmed in. It takes some getting used to. Have a look a motor racing however and you can see that that is how they prevent injury.
We have some real nice light small jockey seat that do a great job. When the gloves come off and you really need to get somewhere I go with a full seat.
Anyway if anyone wants to talk suspension I am all ears and don't mind sharing what we have learned along the way.
Suspension seats are great, but boat design has an equally large part to play. I have no idea why the whole world is still clinging to monohull designs and trying to overcome the harsh ride by adding high tech shock mitigation seating as a quick fix.
we bolt them to all the hulls our customers want to. Now i think of it... we never bolted them to a catamaran hull. Maybe the time is right for it now .
we bolt them to all the hulls our customers want to. Now i think of it... we never bolted them to a catamaran hull. Maybe the time is right for it now .
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Niels Deen
Dag Niels,
Miskien is dit tyd om julle sitplekke aan een van ons katamarans vas te bout.
I will have a chat with the lead designer and get a feeling for his requirements and get back to you.
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Gonna have a look at your seats as well. Hopefully you have not bolted them to mono hulls. 
