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13 July 2010, 20:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Sea Survival Course ......
If anyone has been pondering doing this I am booked up (with Mrs M) on Sat to do this with Stormforce in Southampton.
I have only ever heard good things about this so I'm urging anyone I know to give them (Doug) a ring and see if you can get down there at the weekend.
I know several Ribneters who have done it & have sworn by it.
Pete
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13 July 2010, 20:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,446
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A great course, you will both enjoy and learn lots.
You will never take being in the water with an inflated lifejacket on, for granted ever again.
Very much recommend and money very well spent
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13 July 2010, 22:23
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Argyll
Boat name: Puffin
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 90
MMSI: 235075764
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 147
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Originally Posted by 250kts
A great course, you will both enjoy and learn lots.
You will never take being in the water with an inflated lifejacket on, for granted ever again.
Very much recommend and money very well spent
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Agreed, did the course with Ian from Seaskills in Oban last weekend , learnt loads, including don't necessarily expect your lifjacket to inflate automatically (mine didn't) or the life raft to inflate properly either for that matter! A lesson better learnt in a swimming pool than in the dark in a rough sea!
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14 July 2010, 10:20
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
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Yes -Seaskills courses are good, I organised one with 16 people on a few years back, but i think they (instructors) enjoy the last exercise too much!! .
I believe Ian @ SeaSkills can arrange them anywhere in UK...Jon Clift one of Sea Skills Instructors are based in Salcombe.
S.
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14 July 2010, 11:37
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Originally Posted by Puffin
learnt loads, including don't necessarily expect your lifjacket to inflate automatically (mine didn't)
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interesting - what's the cure - pull the red handle or take it off and swim? what's the fault - the auto part or something else?
My better half can't swim - so was kind of relying on the Hammar jacket to work on the relatively rare occasions she comes out with me...
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14 July 2010, 17:41
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Argyll
Boat name: Puffin
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 90
MMSI: 235075764
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
interesting - what's the cure - pull the red handle or take it off and swim? what's the fault - the auto part or something else?
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Simple, pull the red toggle (it was the automatic bit that failed)............. but that is something you might not remember in the blind panic of being tipped into a very cold and rough sea! Better to learn the lesson in a warm swimming pool, hopefuly you are then more likely to remember if it ever comes to the real thing.
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14 July 2010, 19:39
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bradford on Avon
Boat name: tbc
Make: Sunseeker (AshleyD)
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2 x coal burners
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 461
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I did the course with Stormforce back in April & would highly recommend the school.
I came away with a new respect for the sea & the conclusion that if I ever have to step up into a life raft I want to have a bottle of scotch & a revolver with me
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14 July 2010, 20:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble Point
Boat name: Red Eye
Make: Ribeye 785 Sport
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 300HP BETX
MMSI: 235082425/235905837
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 44
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Booked into SWAC for 25th. Looking forward to it. Any good?
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15 July 2010, 01:07
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Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Boat name: Grimalkin
Make: Ribcraft 750 Sport
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzi 250
MMSI: 235050647
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 909
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Tee hee
Been there: got the T-shirt!
Good advice: never leave the boat!
Best advice: expect all equipment to fail - oh, and hold your nose on that first jump off the board!
Good luck
David
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15 July 2010, 01:13
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Originally Posted by Puffin
Simple, pull the red toggle (it was the automatic bit that failed)............. but that is something you might not remember in the blind panic of being tipped into a very cold and rough sea!
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Ah well that is a bit of a relief ... though point taken about remembering to pull it.
Were they conventional 'auto' lifejackets that failed, or Hammar type? Which sort is generally more reliable?
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15 July 2010, 10:39
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Oban (mostly)
Make: Ribcraft, Humber,BWM
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboards
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 632
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
Ah well that is a bit of a relief ... though point taken about remembering to pull it.
Were they conventional 'auto' lifejackets that failed, or Hammar type? Which sort is generally more reliable?
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It was a United Moulders unit that failed on that occasion, Stephen. It had passed it's expiry date, and Puffin wanted to test it in the water.
It is one of the few of that type that have failed on courses. In my experience it has been the pressure-activated units that have failed more frequently than the soluble types. However, out of the pool environment, it is the soluble units that are more likely to accidently deploy if the tablet has been allowed to get damp.
Ian
PS Thanks for the kind comments about our courses - much appreciated!
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15 July 2010, 10:45
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Argyll
Boat name: Puffin
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki 90
MMSI: 235075764
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 147
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It was a United Moulders unit that failed on that occasion, Stephen. It had passed it's expiry date, and Puffin wanted to test it in the water.
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As a follow up to that, went home and tested the other 2 that were out of date, they both fired correctly, all lifejackets now fully checked and up to date!
One of many lessons learnt in a useful and enjoyable day!
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15 July 2010, 11:50
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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By coincidence I was looking at my Hammars the other day and the inflator bits expire next year so I must order some new units for them. The "light" is still green but I don't know how much use that is...
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15 July 2010, 12:33
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Country: USA
Town: Torrance
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
By coincidence I was looking at my Hammars the other day and the inflator bits expire next year so I must order some new units for them. The "light" is still green but I don't know how much use that is...
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Not sure about the Hammars but the green 'light'/tag usually shows it hasn't been triggered not the state of charge of the bottle.
Don't forget if all else fails that you can blow it up by mouth.
SDG
PS Haven't done the course a few times now I would say its a must for anyone. It CAN happen to you...
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15 July 2010, 17:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,551
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As a warm up for Sat I tested/checked all my lifejackets today. They get a good look over every few weeks as my kids wear them,( they all kept dry in the house too rather than left anywhere damp) but they got spray hoods fitted today and the lights checked (all ok except mine !) .
I even triggered one just to see and it worked fine too !
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15 July 2010, 19:07
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bradford on Avon
Boat name: tbc
Make: Sunseeker (AshleyD)
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2 x coal burners
Join Date: May 2004
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Just remembered another very important thing I learned on this course: Don't forget to empty the pockets of your waterproofs - it's surprising what embarrassing things end up at the bottom of the swiming pool
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16 July 2010, 10:31
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Length: 7m +
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I did this course many moons ago in St Thomas in the virgin islands, had great fun, the highlight was jumping off a reasonably high diving board with the life jacket on. (Suppossed to simulate what it would be like jumping off a ship). Yes would recomend it.
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17 July 2010, 17:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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So just back . A great day and its amazing how much water you can trap in your sleeves/pockets etc!
If you haven't done it then you should. Not only worthwhile but good fun too.
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21 July 2010, 20:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yoda & Obi Wan
Make: XS700
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200 HP
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,032
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeterM
So just back . A great day and its amazing how much water you can trap in your sleeves/pockets etc!
If you haven't done it then you should. Not only worthwhile but good fun too.
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Pete
Glad you and Mrs M enjoyed the course.
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