Sealing containers

stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 11:43

Well it's two weeks to jura and mull . After a lot of help/advice I am making my buoy and marker flag . I am using a twenty litre container that we order chainsaw oil in . They do not leak when being used for their purpose but. I know at least one of you mentioned sealing the lid . Is this something. I need to do and if so with what ?

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Mollers · 26 July 2014, 12:38

ISO top flex tape. It's gaffer tape x1000. It's designed for sealing up airtight buildings. The awesome-ist tape in the whole of Tapesville. ;-)

stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Mollers

ISO top flex tape. It's gaffer tape x1000. It's designed for sealing up airtight buildings. The awesome-ist tape in the whole of Tapesville. ;-)

Yes but is it any good !!

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stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Mollers

ISO top flex tape. It's gaffer tape x1000. It's designed for sealing up airtight buildings. The awesome-ist tape in the whole of Tapesville. ;-)

Just had a look at it . Your marketing skills are better than theirs . How do you use it .

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ShinyShoe · 26 July 2014, 12:45

If its only out 24hours I'd be less than certain it needs it if you are happy the oil seal works.

If you wanted to do something a quick squirt of silicone/sikkaflex would probably be in order but if there is residual oil will it stick? Would some tape around the outside work better? Or would a good dose of expanding foam be better? Squirt in apply cap as fast as possible and invert? My suspicion is your point of failure is more likely the attachment of the buoy to rope... does it have a moulded in handle? what stops the rope chaffing through that? If you were squirting expanding foam about I might be tempted to try and get some inside the handle so if it chaffs through it gets to foam... foam has no strength so it will chaff through that too and out the otherside but would float longer than once the first hole is in the handle... I'd also think about chaff protection on the outside - rope through a bit of pipe? Duck tape on some split pipe over the handle. Those handles are very soft PVC / PE plastic in my experience...

Most with handles moulded in have the lid and handle close together. great for pouring but means the handle will become the bottom so the lid will be in the water...

Mollers · 26 July 2014, 13:21

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Just had a look at it . Your marketing skills are better than theirs . How do you use it .

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Pull off the backing and it's just sticky tape, but very hench tape.

stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 13:28

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Originally Posted by ShinyShoe

If its only out 24hours I'd be less than certain it needs it if you are happy the oil seal works.

If you wanted to do something a quick squirt of silicone/sikkaflex would probably be in order but if there is residual oil will it stick? Would some tape around the outside work better? Or would a good dose of expanding foam be better? Squirt in apply cap as fast as possible and invert? My suspicion is your point of failure is more likely the attachment of the buoy to rope... does it have a moulded in handle? what stops the rope chaffing through that? If you were squirting expanding foam about I might be tempted to try and get some inside the handle so if it chaffs through it gets to foam... foam has no strength so it will chaff through that too and out the otherside but would float longer than once the first hole is in the handle... I'd also think about chaff protection on the outside - rope through a bit of pipe? Duck tape on some split pipe over the handle. Those handles are very soft PVC / PE plastic in my experience...

Most with handles moulded in have the lid and handle close together. great for pouring but means the handle will become the bottom so the lid will be in the water...

Yes it has a moulded handle and yes the cap will be submersed . I will be checking it every morning, do I guess I can check it for leaks and possibly any rope chaffing. I went up whitby last weekend and it seemed that all the markers were made like this with flags . So that's what has made me go for this way .

Also spartacus has guaranteed that I will find lost buoys whilst up there !! Probably lost from rope chaffing.

I am now going to take a fresh look at how to attach rope to moulded handle minimising rope chaffing.

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stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 13:29

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Pull off the backing and it's just sticky tape, but very hench tape.

Is it good enough to prevent rope chaffing and could I dangle it in the water and pull up lobsters with it

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Mollers · 26 July 2014, 13:31

It's no more durable than gaffer type, but a shed load stickier and it doesn't dry up and let go over time as gaffer tape does. I found it when sealing up our house for MVHR.

stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 15:14

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Originally Posted by Mollers

It's no more durable than gaffer type, but a shed load stickier and it doesn't dry up and let go over time as gaffer tape does. I found it when sealing up our house for MVHR.

I know I am being thick but would you wrap it round the thread and then put the cap on after or just go round the cap when it's on .

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Mollers · 26 July 2014, 17:14

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I know I am being thick but would you wrap it round the thread and then put the cap on after or just go round the cap when it's on .

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Whack top on, then put a wrap of tape around join between top and container. This is fairly extreme sealing. Are you expect sea breaking over you?

ShinyShoe · 26 July 2014, 19:50

What about PTFE tape on the thread?

stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 21:30

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What about PTFE tape on the thread?

I think that is what I was thinking of .
Just spent hours on a rope system round an old chainsaw oil container . If I had spent that long out at work I could have earned enough money to have bought an all singing buoy. Still I think that is not the point .
If it works it will be far more satisfying .

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ShinyShoe · 26 July 2014, 21:35

Yeah.. You do know you can just go to Tesco fish counter and but a lobster ;-)

stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 21:43

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Yeah.. You do know you can just go to Tesco fish counter and but a lobster ;-)

I bought my first lobster off Ronald McDonald on jura five years ago . Cooked it with some squat lobster which in my opinion are well under rated . Then sat with a beer looking out from craighouse .

Buying one from tesco won't quite match that , which I think is your point . Catching my own mind you might just .

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ShinyShoe · 26 July 2014, 22:03

Wow... I dunno which bit surprises me more...

- there is a McDonalds on Jura or
- McDonalds are selling Lobster instead of BigMacs...

;-)

stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 22:12

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Wow... I dunno which bit surprises me more...

- there is a McDonalds on Jura or
- McDonalds are selling Lobster instead of BigMacs...

;-)

I did think it might be a wind up for English tourists but if it was the locals kept it up for the whole holiday .

I worked for tesco for 27 years before setting up my own tree surgery business .

The first tree job I did on a road side which required high vis jackets which I hadn't bought , so I remembered my tesco ones that I used on site visits .

I handed them out to me and the lads , they had tesco logo on them . An old boy walked by walking his dog , looked up and saw our vests and shrugged his shoulders saying f****ing tesco are into everything these days .

Laugh I nearly bought. Round

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willk · 26 July 2014, 22:22

I'm acquainted with this particular Ronald McDonald of Jura. He assisted in the repatriation of my person after an unfortunate ribbing incident a few years back. He is one of nature's Gentlemen

stevedonna · 26 July 2014, 22:31

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I'm acquainted with this particular Ronald McDonald of Jura. He assisted in the repatriation of my person after an unfortunate ribbing incident a few years back. He is one of nature's Gentlemen

He is a very nice chap but he told me that you milked your injury .........

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Poly · 26 July 2014, 22:36

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I'm acquainted with this particular Ronald McDonald of Jura. He assisted in the repatriation of my person after an unfortunate ribbing incident a few years back. He is one of nature's Gentlemen

Repatriation = Deportation.