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09 November 2012, 16:08
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Humber Ocean Pro
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 200HP
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 999
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Searider 4.7m Engine choice
Looking for advice on what engine to put on the above boat, also what sort of speed and consumption could I expect.
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09 November 2012, 16:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,178
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 69cmw
Looking for advice on what engine to put on the above boat, also what sort of speed and consumption could I expect.
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A 2 stroke, the biggest it will take, the newest you can afford. Consumption depends on engine & how you drive it. 1l/nm is a ball park figure.
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09 November 2012, 16:59
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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I run an SR4.7 with a Merc F50Efi 4-stroke.
Max speed around 32-33kts
Fuel consumption at steady 28ish kts: 0.6l/nm
I used to have a Twatsoo 60hp 2-stroke on there, which was around 1.5 kts faster, but when cruising at 28kts, it delivered 1.0l/nm
If money were no object, I'd suggest a Yam F70 4-stroke, but they're £7295.
If you want to spend £2k-£2.5k, then I'd suggest a 2003 onwards Merc/Mariner/Yam 50/60hp 4-stroke (Efi)
If you want to spend £1500, then look out for a late 1990s Yam 60/70 2-stroke, but these are rare.
If you want to spend around £1000, then an older Yam 60/70 or a Soozook DT65 from early-mid 1990s would be my choice.
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09 November 2012, 22:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birchington
Boat name: Moneypenny
Make: Avon SR 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 90
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 182
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
I run an SR4.7 with a Merc F50Efi 4-stroke.
Max speed around 32-33kts
Fuel consumption at steady 28ish kts: 0.6l/nm
I used to have a Twatsoo 60hp 2-stroke on there, which was around 1.5 kts faster, but when cruising at 28kts, it delivered 1.0l/nm
If money were no object, I'd suggest a Yam F70 4-stroke, but they're £7295.
If you want to spend £2k-£2.5k, then I'd suggest a 2003 onwards Merc/Mariner/Yam 50/60hp 4-stroke (Efi)
If you want to spend £1500, then look out for a late 1990s Yam 60/70 2-stroke, but these are rare.
If you want to spend around £1000, then an older Yam 60/70 or a Soozook DT65 from early-mid 1990s would be my choice.
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I thought the Yam F70 was to heavy for the transom, thinking of a Yam 75 2stroke for mine
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09 November 2012, 22:39
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Humber Ocean Pro
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 200HP
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 999
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I thought they both weighed about the same, 119-120kg?
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10 November 2012, 00:12
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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That's correct for the 75 and you don't want to put that on your 4.7
the F70 is 114 KG and it's a superb little lump. We have 1 and the fuel economy is superb. I'm probably going to buy another 1 and put it on my 4.7 but my heart and experience says that it should be a 70 BETOL or AETOL its a very very empathetic Rib/engine match as that weighs around 105kgs
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10 November 2012, 01:03
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Back in the day (early 1990s) a pal of mine had an SR4.7, which he fitted a brand new 90 Yam onto, based on the theory that it was the same basic motor as the Yam 75, which was only a little bit more than the max hp rating of the boat. Twas a fiery little beast
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10 November 2012, 01:05
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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Quote:
Originally Posted by woody73
I thought the Yam F70 was to heavy for the transom, thinking of a Yam 75 2stroke for mine
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Max transom weight is 265lbs (120-ish kg).
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11 November 2012, 13:47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Birchington
Boat name: Moneypenny
Make: Avon SR 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yam 90
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 182
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Max transom weight is 265lbs (120-ish kg).
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If I have an A frame fitted to the transom do I have to subtract the weight of that from the maximum transom weight?
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11 November 2012, 14:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Exeter
Make: Avon Searider 4.7
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mariner 60 4-stroke
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 80
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How about this Yam 70 2-stroke on eBay item # 140875491844 ? (not me selling it)
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11 November 2012, 15:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hamish
How about this Yam 70 2-stroke on eBay item # 140875491844 ? (not me selling it)
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Yep I would go for that, had one on my 4.7 awesome! 36/37 knots
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11 November 2012, 19:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cheshire
Boat name: Gollione
Make: Avon Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 347
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Not recommending it but.....
Nothing to do with me, but someone thought this was a good idea on a 4.7!
AVON SEARIDER RIB + MARINER 100 + TRAILER | eBay
Is this a genuine advert?
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11 November 2012, 19:08
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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I think both of those Yammies on ebay have been sold
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11 November 2012, 20:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I reckon you got a deal there Stu ?
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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12 November 2012, 11:44
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: Deventer
Boat name: .
Make: Avon
Length: 6m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 102
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I totally agree on that (except for the ol Suuz 65 .
Buying a new Merc/Mariner F60efi would give you a nice "light feeling" quick setup and has a lot better price than the YamF70.
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
I run an SR4.7 with a Merc F50Efi 4-stroke.
Max speed around 32-33kts
Fuel consumption at steady 28ish kts: 0.6l/nm
I used to have a Twatsoo 60hp 2-stroke on there, which was around 1.5 kts faster, but when cruising at 28kts, it delivered 1.0l/nm
If money were no object, I'd suggest a Yam F70 4-stroke, but they're £7295.
If you want to spend £2k-£2.5k, then I'd suggest a 2003 onwards Merc/Mariner/Yam 50/60hp 4-stroke (Efi)
If you want to spend £1500, then look out for a late 1990s Yam 60/70 2-stroke, but these are rare.
If you want to spend around £1000, then an older Yam 60/70 or a Soozook DT65 from early-mid 1990s would be my choice.
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22 November 2012, 18:14
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Humber Ocean Pro
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 200HP
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 999
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The 70hp Yamaha that was supposedly sold on Ebay is back on again.
Any info on this engine?
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22 November 2012, 21:49
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,650
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No, but the anti-cavitation plate is damaged. There's another Yamaha gearbox on Ebay described as 'mint'... you decide!
YAMAHA 60-70HP Outboard Lower Unit (Gearbox) Mint Condition Blue | eBay
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22 November 2012, 22:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,047
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I think there's about 4 x Yam 70's on the bay at the moment
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22 November 2012, 22:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
Make: Honwave 3.5AE
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu Outboard
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,176
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That lower units on sale by that well known dealer dan cooper or outboardmotorseurope or outboard spares or cambridge outboards or outboards 12..............bargepole !!
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23 November 2012, 13:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Northumberland
Boat name: Northern Storm
Make: North Diver?
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 90 Autolube
MMSI: 235096344
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 546
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This is not far from me
Ebay Item number :321027907154
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