Seating??

Zippy · 09 November 2004, 20:54

Ive asked a few people about this and sent some e mails out to various companies but as yet not had a truly satisfactory answer so i turn you guys for some advise.

Having picked my rib up a few weeks ago i now need to get me some more seating arrangements behind the console (which is well forward).

I like the idea of 2 x single jockey seats side by side but need to be sure there is sufficent space for people to sit without jamming their legs togeather. Im not too keen on the bench seat option as im not sure about passenger comfort / safety with them although it does give good storage space. (Another big problem for me)

Attached isnt the best bicture but gives an idea of the space avaliable.

Any thoughts on layout or places to get seats from (Idealy just the GRP mould so i can save money and fix the seat, hinges and a few other things im thinking about) would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Zippy.

Rogue Wave · 09 November 2004, 20:55

L and N on this forum does do seat bases. Pete 7 gets em from him at a decent price.

Pete7 · 09 November 2004, 21:02

Lee is just putting a web site together so still under development and testing but his contact details are there,

Pete

http://www.leewaycomposites.co.uk/

Zippy · 09 November 2004, 21:11

Thanks gents.

I had been told about L&N but sent them a mail through here and got no reply. figured it must have been an old e mail address or something.

Will try and call them tomorrow if i get a few moments.

Louise · 09 November 2004, 21:15

Or if you feel like spoiling yourself you could try Outhill but make sure you're sitting down (!) when they tell you how much!

I reckon a nice pair of double jockeys would go well in your boat!

Zippy · 09 November 2004, 21:21

I have looked at outhill but besides the fact they are pretty expensive i would quite like to fit them out myself.

Sad i know but im going to need something to do now winter is here!

Neal · 09 November 2004, 21:24

Zippy had the same problems with my 5.3. Also wanted couple of single jockeys but after getting measurements found crew would have to ride side saddle. In the end found second hand twin jockey on here and with some advice from Pete7 installed it to rear of existing twin. This is the same set up as the boat I did my level 2 on and works well. You need to check space for the engine when up. Mine has only got about 1" top of engine to seat back rest. Take time to plan it out.

Jono · 10 November 2004, 08:05

Hi there Zippy,

Be very careful about internal beam if you're trying to fit side by sides in a relatively small hull. Check you have enough deck to screw to and you are not screwing through the hull. Don't laugh, it's been done.....

Zippy · 10 November 2004, 17:25

Humm. had thought about the look of horror if i screwed through the hull!

Has anyone fitted these themselves? i was planning to use some kind of sealant and some hefty self tapping screws but not sure if this will do the trick. have had a look at a few and apart from glassing them in this looks how its done??

Neal · 10 November 2004, 17:44

Zippy do a search Pete7 posted some help for me when i installed mine the same way and its still OK. Also Danial "Top Banana" posted some good pictures when he installed his.

Paul Glatzel · 10 November 2004, 18:49

Zippy

You mentioned using sealent. When i fitted an Outhill twin set they advised me to use Sixaflex (available from Chandlers) which is a very strong bonding adhesive plus the self tapping screws - about 25mm. Touch wood no issues and our seats get a real pounding

Paul

ribraff · 10 November 2004, 19:11

I have the mold for a double jockey seat and could make you some, would this be of use?
One of the best methods is to glass them down on to the deck, this makes for a very good bond and will be watertight.

tue · 10 November 2004, 19:17

I fitted my Outhill seat and console using polyurathane sealant and some 1" self tappers. Polyurathane sealant is much better than silicone as it is very sticky and helps to bond. You could also use some resin, but it will be a bugger should you ever want to remove the seats.

Zippy · 10 November 2004, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by ribraff

I have the mold for a double jockey seat and could make you some, would this be of use?
One of the best methods is to glass them down on to the deck, this makes for a very good bond and will be watertight.

Thanks for the offer but i dont think i can fit a double jockey seat in. only a 5.1 meter boat and the console has a double jockey. Based on my initial measurements i have just enough room to get 2 x singles in side by side.

Going to have to check in the daylight though because Jono's comment about screwing through the hull has given me the heebe geebes. Looked this evening and think i will be ok but come the weekend i wil have a closed inspection.

i have never glassed anything before and dont want to make a complete pig's ear of it!

Jono · 10 November 2004, 20:22

Sikaflex 291/292 or Soudaflex 40 along with decent size self tappers will do the job perfectly. Use a decent size (10s or 12s) and consider using penny washers (sometimes called repair washers) to help spread the load. If you use a good adhesive/sealant you will be amazed how strong this is. Do NOT use silicone sealant, it has no adhesive properties to speak of. Good luck.. it's not difficult, just think things through carefully. Cheers, Jono
Oh, and make sure you use A4/316 screws/washers. A2/304 will tarnish unless they are mirror polished...