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25 June 2015, 12:46
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Country: Norway
Town: Oslo
Boat name: Black Magic
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF250
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Seats for long expeditions
Hi guys!
I'm planning my next year around arctic Svalbard expedition next summer. The boat is a Osprey Vipermax 680 with Suzuki 250 on the back. As of now I have the original jockey seats, but I'm looking at mitigating seats. My question on is what kind of seats would you use on a to week trip like this? Jockeys are fine but would bucket seats with mitigation be better on this long days?
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25 June 2015, 13:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
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i had coastal pro shock jockey seats on mine alright for a couple of hours then made my a-s- sore so would sit on the tubes for a while, never tried bucket seats but you still need to use your legs for stability on shock seats so i think buckets would not help but a descent helm seat might be OK where you can spread your legs.talk to Scott seats in the UK the make a wide variety of seating including marine.
cheers jeff
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25 June 2015, 13:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcticfly
Hi guys!
I'm planning my next year around arctic Svalbard expedition next summer. The boat is a Osprey Vipermax 680 with Suzuki 250 on the back. As of now I have the original jockey seats, but I'm looking at mitigating seats. My question on is what kind of seats would you use on a to week trip like this? Jockeys are fine but would bucket seats with mitigation be better on this long days?
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It depends on your seating configuration, if you have side by side helm seats, you might struggle to find bucket seats that will fit. I have a pair of Ullman Biscayas with side bolster supports & they JUST fit with about 20mm gap between them. The Ullmans are "firm" on the bum & after a couple of hours you need to stand & give your cheeks a rest The upside is they are very kind to your back & legs. As ever it's a compromise, if the seat padding was softer, the shock would be taken by the seat & not the mechanism & you would risk bottoming out, the firmness of the seat squab makes the mechanism do its job. I think in your case you need to find out what will fit & take it from there, rather than deciding on what you want & discovering they won't go.
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25 June 2015, 14:09
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Member
Country: Norway
Town: Oslo
Boat name: Black Magic
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF250
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 15
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It´s a 4 seat configuration 2+2. I think you might be right regarding the space. I´ll ask Osprey. I guess mitigating jockeys might be my only choice...
If there is room for bucket seats, would this be your preference? I have to keep in mind that I have to navigate between drifting ice, so standing is not going to be as good with the bucket seats... I did half of the trip I am planning now on a 17`Polar circle boat with jockeys, and I can still feel it in my bum 4 years later ;-)
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25 June 2015, 14:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
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Length: under 3m
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arcticfly
It´s a 4 seat configuration 2+2. I think you might be right regarding the space. I´ll ask Osprey. I guess mitigating jockeys might be my only choice...
If there is room for bucket seats, would this be your preference? I have to keep in mind that I have to navigate between drifting ice, so standing is not going to be as good with the bucket seats... I did half of the trip I am planning now on a 17`Polar circle boat with jockeys, and I can still feel it in my bum 4 years later ;-)
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Any sort of Standing ie Navigating through Ice! and Buckets are a no no...OMO where good view and vis is paramount.
I know a lot of the early Lynx racers used Bucket seats...and some of the Osprey Consuls were designed for them....but at lower speeds in rough weather I don't think for most RIBs you can beat the Jocky type arrangement.
I also use Ulmann Biscaya's and Love em .....and (unlike) Pikey don't find them hard on the Backside at all...maybe because I've had them longer...maybe I'm just more of a Hard Ass!
Incidentally I fitted some foot rests to my Ulmann's which not only make for more comfort in some Sea states...but also offer a better view when stood on,because of the extra hieght afforded,which YOU might find handy in the Ice flows!
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25 June 2015, 14:39
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Member
Country: Norway
Town: Oslo
Boat name: Black Magic
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF250
Join Date: Dec 2014
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Looks like my initial thought was the right one. Now if one you you Ribnet gentlemen would sell me your Ullmans cheap, I can get this project going faster ;-)
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25 June 2015, 14:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
..maybe because I've had them longer...maybe I'm just more of a Hard Ass!
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..or more natural padding
+1 for the footrests, they allow a good view & also offer a different position for your feet.
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30 August 2017, 06:39
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Country: New Zealand
Town: Christchurch
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If you are after something with a bit more of a flat seat area, that still has a jockey pommel for lateral stability, you may be interested in what we are making down under... see info here:
http://www.rib.net/forum/f43/suspens...ing-76731.html
Hope you find/have found a good solution!
Cheers,
Dan.
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30 August 2017, 19:38
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Member
Country: Norway
Town: Oslo
Boat name: Seatrout express
Make: Zodiac Milpro
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Hi!
Going around Svalbard is an epic trip. I did it about 10 years ago. The main target was flyfishing. We had a base in "Polheim" in the Widjeford, and from there I went flyfishing where no man had been flyfishing before (at least it felt like it).
I have a log for the different rivers with artic charr in Widjeforden. Send me a PM if you are interested. Remember C&R.
I`ve attached som pic for you. Flyfishing I'm the Didrikslagune, a shot of the Didrikscabin (the cabin at Polheim is much better), and more.
Cheers
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30 August 2017, 19:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brage
Hi!
Going around Svalbard is an epic trip. I did it about 10 years ago. The main target was flyfishing. We had a base in "Polheim" in the Widjeford, and from there I went flyfishing where no man had been flyfishing before (at least it felt like it).
I have a log for the different rivers with artic charr in Widjeforden. Send me a PM if you are interested. Remember C&R.
I`ve attached som pic for you. Flyfishing I'm the Didrikslagune, a shot of the Didrikscabin (the cabin at Polheim is much better), and more.
Cheers
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Now...that's a Rib adventure! ...One Day!
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30 August 2017, 21:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Waterlooville
Boat name: Tickler
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Length: 6m +
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In Dag Pike's 'Rib Manual', he highlights that many RIB seats don't offer much lateral support so you tend to use the wheel as a handhold which in his eyes you shouldn't be doing. He is a fan of the wrap round bolster seats that you can sit, or by folding the seat base away, stand.
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30 August 2017, 21:16
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Country: Norway
Town: Oslo
Boat name: Seatrout express
Make: Zodiac Milpro
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 40
Join Date: Jul 2016
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Cheers Maximus, it was an adventure off the beaten track! I had another SIB adventure this summer, with my 7 years old son and the FC470. Less polar bears, more arctic fish. Look out for a adventure report on a forum near you.
If you plan a trip be sure to contact the Sysselman regarding permits and more ( Governor)
In the mean time, hers some more pics from Svalbard.
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