Securing lifelines to D rings

Nordburg2001 · 17 October 2016, 20:03

Is there a best/correct way to attach lifelines to D rings? What knots to use? Slack lifelines or tight? Tied to each ring? Tried my best not to ask another question but after searching online for hours and looking at countless pictures I'm still none the wiser! Thanks yet again guys for your help and imput

Maximus · 17 October 2016, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Nordburg2001

Is there a best/correct way to attach lifelines to D rings? What knots to use? Slack lifelines or tight? Tied to each ring? Tried my best not to ask another question but after searching online for hours and looking at countless pictures I'm still none the wiser! Thanks yet again guys for your help and imput

Well...I DID have 3/4" lifelines fitted to my Ribcraft,they were fitted via "D rings" inturn glued via patches to the Tubes....,each one was spliced in somehow...
Anyway...I soon decided I didn't like the way they flapped around made a noise when underway,and also messed up my newly polished Tubes!

After some thought I removed the "D rings" (cut them through and threaded each out of the Hyperlon loop) it was a simple matter of then using 1/2"rope (of a better quality) and threading that through loops now left...I used multi strand,and got an old boy I know ex Navy to splice both ends...after pulling it tight...
Much cleaner lines,no flapping around,and still have useable and practical Lifelines if ever needed.
If the loops that hold the "D rings" are big/wide enough that's the way to go IMO.

Nordburg2001 · 17 October 2016, 21:38

That's what is on it now, not pretty!

Nordburg2001 · 17 October 2016, 21:40

Straight through the rings and spliced would look a lot more professional than this!!

Maximus · 17 October 2016, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Nordburg2001

That's what is on it now, not pretty!

That's how mine looked BEFORE the mod I describe...looks like you can do the same.
It looks much better and performs better for me.

Nordburg2001 · 17 October 2016, 21:46

Not sure I'll cut the rings out, might try passing through them for now. All looks very well glued and would only leave a very small loop to pass rope through. Scared I'd make it worse!

Maximus · 17 October 2016, 22:18

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Originally Posted by Nordburg2001

Not sure I'll cut the rings out, might try passing through them for now. All looks very well glued and would only leave a very small loop to pass rope through. Scared I'd make it worse!

You'd be better off leaving as is Rather than thread through the D's I reckon.
Just measure the loop that holds them on...you'll soon know if it'll take the Rope or not.

Nordburg2001 · 17 October 2016, 22:50

I'll get a look tomorrow, been checking out how to splice rope, I'll post a few pics if I manage it!!

lakelandterrier · 17 October 2016, 22:55

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...after pulling it tight...

So, Mr Maximus, your lifelines are taut against the tube?

Fully undertstand that that stops them flapping around and wearing against your beautiful tubes - the wear they made on my tubes was surprising when polishing them up, but from a preactical point of view, if they are taut how would someone in the water be able to grab hold of them - unless that's not their function,...or am I missing a point?

Pikey Dave · 18 October 2016, 05:35

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So, Mr Maximus, your lifelines are taut against the tube?

Fully undertstand that that stops them flapping around and wearing against your beautiful tubes - the wear they made on my tubes was surprising when polishing them up, but from a preactical point of view, if they are taut how would someone in the water be able to grab hold of them - unless that's not their function,...or am I missing a point?

My lines are tight for similar reasons to Maxi's, admittedly not as easy to grab as a loose dangly one would be, but still grabbable all the same, a drowning man wouldn't have a problem[emoji57].

jeffstevens763@g · 18 October 2016, 18:42

Splicing is easy and very therapeutic you could cut out the D ring pass a good quality cord through the hole and whip round the rope on each side but you would need a ring at each end to get it taught

Pikey Dave · 19 October 2016, 08:23

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

Splicing is easy and very therapeutic you could cut out the D ring pass a good quality cord through the hole and whip round the rope on each side but you would need a ring at each end to get it taught

Tip for getting the line taught, inflate the tubes, thread the line through the rings & mark the length, deflate the tube & make your splice. Inflate tube & you should have a nice tight line.

Nordburg2001 · 19 October 2016, 08:52

Cheers Dave! Was wondering how to do that, was out last night, going to tackle it later, if it turns out ok I'll post a few pics

jeffstevens763@g · 19 October 2016, 10:38

not too tight [hand holds] you need to be able to get hold easy

Maximus · 19 October 2016, 11:09

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Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

Splicing is easy and very therapeutic you could cut out the D ring pass a good quality cord through the hole and whip round the rope on each side but you would need a ring at each end to get it taught

No need for D rings on the end...just loop it back and splice in.

Finis

jeffstevens763@g · 19 October 2016, 13:27

he might struggle on rope diameter maximus if he cuts out the rings guess its only 5 mm hole through the tape where the rings were

Nordburg2001 · 19 October 2016, 13:31

I'd be lucky to fit a shoe lace through[emoji23]

jeffstevens763@g · 19 October 2016, 13:57

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I'd be lucky to fit a shoe lace through[emoji23]

i thought that, you could go for a very small twisted shackle and pass the rope through it splicing each end, the pin through where the ring went and the rope diameter to suit the shackle eye that way the rope will stop the shackle flapping about and you will have plenty of room to get hold of the rope since its only attached each end [longer span] if that makes sense

Nordburg2001 · 19 October 2016, 15:33

Something like this instead of the D rings, with the rope passed all the way through and spliced at either end?

jeffstevens763@g · 19 October 2016, 18:06

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Something like this instead of the D rings, with the rope passed all the way through and spliced at either end?

spot on if that works for you and you could use hollow rope to save splicing you just poke the end of the rope down the middle and pull tight it just needs melting on the end to form a point for ease pushing down lots of sibs have hollow rope i think rib shop sells it