security systems on ribs

xpertski · 14 June 2005, 13:24

hello all, wondering if people know where i can find the security system that is like a chip which is planted on the boat, then if it goes missing, it can be activated and found using GPS tracking or somthing similar, is this possible, if so does anyone know where to find information about this, prices (important as money doesnt grow on trees, haha) also i get delivery of the humber ocean pro 6.3m this friday, taking her to scotland for two weeks, will be aweosme! jonathan

steedthrust · 14 June 2005, 13:36

I have wondered the same. So reasurring when you take your boat for a service, 'have you got the key? Don't worry theres only 10 different keys'

GSM tracker

I am sure these are just mobile phones, so the answer is maybe to hide a phone on the boat, having already susbscribed to a tracking service.

Or check this out much more accurate GPS tracker
DOH! just realized this one is only able to be interrogated if you have it, not remotely.

Why can't engines have immoblisers, afterall they virtually have a cars engines management system.

tcwozere · 14 June 2005, 14:37

One of these mebbe?

Hightower · 14 June 2005, 17:00

I've got one of these, after he's been on it for 5 mins nothing works and would be useless to anyone.

jyasaki · 14 June 2005, 17:05

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Originally Posted by Hightower

I've got one of these, after he's been on it for 5 mins nothing works and would be useless to anyone.

LOL.

Cute kid.

jky

fred bolton · 14 June 2005, 17:39

Yeah and the kid could drown without a lifejacket in those big seas

John Kennett · 14 June 2005, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Hightower

I've got one of these, after he's been on it for 5 mins nothing works and would be useless to anyone.

I've got a spare one if anyone wants to borrow him!

John

xpertski · 14 June 2005, 17:42

tcwozere, looked at the link you gave, and it looks good, part from it doesnt look very compact therefore surely a thief could just remove it, put it on a lorry and have you on a james bond style wild goose chase, ahha

so maybe if there is a compact version!
how to secure a boat on trailer is virtually impossible as if they want it they will get it, there are ways around most security systems, like the hitch lock, the trailer could be bound instead to a towbar, so i have thought of ridiculous measures haha, take one wheel off, clamp the other, hitch lock, and chain the whole trailer to a metal hoopp embedded in concrete, haha. a small chip which could be hidden would be great, note to inventors!

codprawn · 14 June 2005, 18:10

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...780479060&rd=1

Came across this - NOT for stopping it from being stolen but an excellent tracking unit that tells exactly where your car/boat etc has been - great for keeping tabs on someone - van drivers look out - the boss WILL get you!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...781902099&rd=1

This IS IT!!!!

And for £40!!!!

You need to register with this website

http://www.gsstrack.co.uk/

It costs 25p per location report.

Only trouble is accurate to about 100m but depends on signal - in some rural areas could only be accurate to a km or so!!!

The best systems are a lot more expensive - they require hefty subscription fees.

The system mentioned earlier looks pretty good - gps data sent via sms so you know exactly where they are.

http://www.findware.co.uk/gpstrackin...e_tracking.htm

These also look pretty good - damn it all - must have a system like this now - like the idea of getting the data to my pda - having said that I am more worried about stuff being nicked OFF my boat than the thing itself going missing!!!

Seaharrier · 14 June 2005, 18:13

The problem with all those electronical protections is the power supply. If you don't use your boat for more than 2 weeks the battery will be dead...

codprawn · 14 June 2005, 18:30

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Originally Posted by Seaharrier

The problem with all those electronical protections is the power supply. If you don't use your boat for more than 2 weeks the battery will be dead...

Come off it - a mobile phone on standby uses harldy any current - a 100amp battery should last quite some time - in 2 weeks will only use about 2 amps!!!!

TQBoater · 14 June 2005, 21:26

I like this solution

Two gaurd dogs !!!

Swifty · 14 June 2005, 21:50

Remember GSM only works upto about 5 miles. Sometimes its more, sometimes less.

Richard B · 14 June 2005, 22:01

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Originally Posted by TQBoater

I like this solution

Two gaurd dogs !!!

Yeah but no but...

I reckon those two would just lick a potential thief to death!

tcwozere · 14 June 2005, 22:29

Jon, try pm'ing Simon666, he has bought one of those units..

Not sure about the 5 mile range either.. I regularly use my mobile on the cross channel ferry, before the Isle of Wight is visible.. But as it will warn you the second the boat has been moved, subsequent action would depend on the Police, and their ability to find summat on the water..

jwalker · 14 June 2005, 23:39

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Come off it - a mobile phone on standby uses harldy any current - a 100amp battery should last quite some time - in 2 weeks will only use about 2 amps!!!!

Ah, but if you use a gps based system, you're going to have to power that too. If you're only draining 100mA, in 2 weeks you'll have used more than 33amps. Then there's the normal discharge of a static battery and then there may be auto-sensing bilge pumps too. I reckon you do have to take power consumption into consideration.

codprawn · 15 June 2005, 01:56

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Originally Posted by jwalker

Ah, but if you use a gps based system, you're going to have to power that too. If you're only draining 100mA, in 2 weeks you'll have used more than 33amps. Then there's the normal discharge of a static battery and then there may be auto-sensing bilge pumps too. I reckon you do have to take power consumption into consideration.

You do have a point - which is why I have bought a 50w solar panel.....

jwalker · 15 June 2005, 11:58

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Originally Posted by codprawn

... which is why I have bought a 50w solar panel.....

Didja, how big is it?

CJL · 15 June 2005, 12:11

I've just bought one of these with a connection to my twin batt set up. Hopefully it will last for quite a while. It has a mic to listen in which could be a good laugh and be completely useless!!!

Anyway if you boat is stolen the phone companies can work out exactly where you are but this is not available to the public. You would have to rely on the police having the time and inclination to do this. (Unlikely!

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Will let you know what its like when its in!!

Chris

PS dont tell anyone!!

codprawn · 15 June 2005, 12:38

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Originally Posted by jwalker

Didja, how big is it?

Sorry it is 15W not 50W!!! Bit of a difference - it is about 12"x24" - waterproof and ready to connect. Had it from Maplin in a sale for £39.95 - they are back up to about £130 with them - cheapest I could find is

http://www.northerntooluk.com/cleara...lt.asp?id=1421

I have tried it and seems to work well - will chuck 12amps a day into your battery which is better than nothing.