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13 April 2014, 07:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cheshire
Boat name: Gollione
Make: Avon Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 347
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Shetland Coastguard..?
Spotted this 'bargain' apparently an ex coastguard jet rib in Shetland
2010 AMF 580 JET RIB - HEAVY DUTY ALUMINIUM BOAT | eBay
If you want clearer pictures especially of the palm tree and workshop where it was photographed, try here:
AMF
Shame it's too far for me to go, would love to thrash that one about! 200hp @ 5.8m
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13 April 2014, 08:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Length: 5m +
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 184
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Wow, does anyone know if this a genuine sale - no reserve unless I've misread.
Haven't heard of AMF, are they a reputable manufacturer? Looks a good buy and not too far from me ![smilie](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Cheers
EDIT: Just taken a look and their boats look cracking. Believe AMF Boats is on Ribnet. Any ideas if this is genuine? Cheers
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13 April 2014, 09:05
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Rory
Make: Northcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 75hp
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 18
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Looks dodgy to me. No feedback and not a lot of description considering what it is.
Make sure you are 100% sure it is ok before you bid would be my advice.
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13 April 2014, 09:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cheshire
Boat name: Gollione
Make: Avon Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chunk
Wow, does anyone know if this a genuine sale - no reserve unless I've misread.
Haven't heard of AMF, are they a reputable manufacturer? Looks a good buy and not too far from me 😈
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I very much doubt that it's ever been anywhere near Shetland. The main photo has been lifted from the manufacturers web site, why not message the seller and ask for their address and phone number? There are probably rib.net members on Shetland who would verify the details?
I expect the seller will tell you they are out of the country and will ship it to you if you pay them first, or similar....
AMF are based in New Zealand (where that Palm tree is growing) and produce some fine looking aluminium boats.
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13 April 2014, 09:08
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,859
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Better still - email the seller and tell them YOU are in Shetland. Bet they're over seas working...
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13 April 2014, 09:21
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Length: 5m +
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 184
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Fair point, just looked on the AMF flicker page and the photos are from there... ![sad](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Mailed the seller to see if I can view ![smilie](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Oh well, thought my Sunday was picking up...back to the hangover.
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13 April 2014, 09:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: brierley hill
Boat name: rocknrolla
Make: osprey
Length: 7m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 713
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Better still - email the seller and tell them YOU are in Shetland. Bet they're over seas working...
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Well how are we Looey werz uz been son
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13 April 2014, 09:48
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,859
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Originally Posted by rocknrolla
Well how are we Looey werz uz been son ![popcorn](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/popcorn.gif)
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ah bin overcees - werkin'
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13 April 2014, 10:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Accrington
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 451
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Not too sure on this one, but as far as I can see his only payment method is PayPal so as far as I understand it (but could be wrong) that if you pay via PayPal then the onus is on him to prove you have received the item if not then you can claim a refund from PayPal.
Must admit it does look "too good to be true"
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13 April 2014, 10:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cheshire
Boat name: Gollione
Make: Avon Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 347
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Originally Posted by bartiny
Not too sure on this one, but as far as I can see his only payment method is PayPal so as far as I understand it (but could be wrong) that if you pay via PayPal then the onus is on him to prove you have received the item if not then you can claim a refund from PayPal.
Must admit it does look "too good to be true" ![shrug](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
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Paypal on eBay.co.uk will only cover you upto £500. Strangely the lowest limit they have of all the ebay countries, I wonder why?
I have sent AMF a link to this thread asking for their comments. I wouldn't be surprised if they know which country the RIB is in as they appear to have made it for a coastguard and will probably keep tabs on key customers and their craft.
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13 April 2014, 10:30
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,067
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It's a scam ![roll eyes](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif) Don't even suggest it.
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13 April 2014, 11:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth(ish)
Boat name: Wings
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F115 AETL
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 615
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I bet the seller hasn't got a landline because they've just moved in and their mobile was lost/stolen/dropped in the bath the day before! I had a couple like that online before I eventually bought my rib. We even had the same boat photos in 3 UK locations for 3 different prices & 3 different contact numbers, we didn't bother pursuing that boat!
To be fair most of the 2nd hand boat websites took the adverts down once we'd alerted them to the dodgy adverts. But there's a lot of it going on online unfortunately.
Sent from my iPhone using RIB Net
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There's weather out there - must be time to RIB!
(Or dive, or ref rugby, or.......)
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13 April 2014, 13:35
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,607
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Sitting at £4,250 with a day to go. I've reported it to Ebay as probably fraudulent. Hopefully they pull it before someone gets their fingers burnt.
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Is that with or without VAT?
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13 April 2014, 15:04
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: Top Banana
Make: Scorpion 9m
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yamaha 421STI
MMSI: Yeah right!
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,164
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It appears to have been removed.
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13 April 2014, 15:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: St Helens
Boat name: Wine Down
Make: Maxum
Length: 8m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 934
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bartiny
Not too sure on this one, but as far as I can see his only payment method is PayPal so as far as I understand it (but could be wrong) that if you pay via PayPal then the onus is on him to prove you have received the item if not then you can claim a refund from PayPal.
Must admit it does look "too good to be true" ![shrug](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/shrug.gif)
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I know that this example is a scam, but just in case Ribnet members think Paypal will give them protection when buying a boat, it wont. Paypal excludes all vehicles from its money back policy.
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13 April 2014, 16:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Accrington
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 451
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Originally Posted by Landlockedpirate
I know that this example is a scam, but just in case Ribnet members think Paypal will give them protection when buying a boat, it wont. Paypal excludes all vehicles from its money back policy.
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Very interesting has the policy changed then?
This time last year I had my V8 MG BGT 220 bhp for sale on Ebay (still for sale if interested ![big grin](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif) though not advertised yet ![nonono](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/nonono.gif) ) anyway I was offered the full asking price, paid directly into my PayPal account (by three different buyers/scammers) just pass on my PayPal account Email, they would then send their Agent to pick the car up that same day.
So thinks I mmm cant lose, I do not release car until funds in my account I am in charge as to letting the car go.
But it was an obvious scam, so I rang PayPal and run it by them, they said that it was a scam, what the buyer does is pay me the full ammount as requested he then sends his agent to pick up the car, the agent takes the car , the buyer waits a day and then gets onto PayPal to report that he has not recieved the goods (car) Pay Pal then ask ME to PROVE that the buyer picked the car up, of course I cant prove it, so PayPal said that they would have no option but to refund the full £8,500 to the buyer, and I would not see the car again, CLOSE CALL
PayPal said that they do not offer ANY protection to SELLERS of motor vehicles.
![sad](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif)
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13 April 2014, 17:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: St Helens
Boat name: Wine Down
Make: Maxum
Length: 8m +
Engine: Inboard
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 934
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Yep, no paypal protection for any vehicles as you said, also no protection for items that cant be easily posted. Not sure what the size definition is, but basically if you sell/buy a wardrobe you cant claim it hasnt been posted etc
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