Silicon Oil for RIB Tubes

Manos · 19 March 2003, 18:28

This is some Transparent Silicon Oil that I found in Greece.
I bought a bottle and I was advised that is for maintaining, protecting and maintaining tubes made out of neoprene, hypalon and PVC.

I always used fairy liquid and armorol to wash and shine my boat.

Any ideas or expereinces of the use of this product or equivalent products??

Manos · 19 March 2003, 18:29

A better photo

Ribald · 19 March 2003, 21:04

Isn't silicone oil going to make the tubes very slippery?

Pete7 · 19 March 2003, 22:37

Ha, yes been there and done that, polished the tubes then took the club diving, no one could stay seated on the tubes a right laugh, oops, never again. Best protection for tubes has to be keep the sun off them with a cover, don't over inflate them especially if its sat on a trailer in the sun and wash with soap. Sugar soap as suggested by Alan P works well.

Pete

wavelength · 19 March 2003, 23:54

Yep been there- sprayed the little seariders tubes with silicon once. Looked brill and gave the inhabitants of the local slipway a great comedy show as the other'arf tried get from the water into the boat. Jumped up , arms flailed around, slid back into the water. Jumped up, arms - well you know the rest. Couldn't stop laughing. Banned from using silicon ever since

narked · 20 March 2003, 00:02

One of my uncles did similar with his searider years ago. Was out for a day of diving with the dive club, and he'd put that sort of stuff on the tubes, and he was wearing one of those old rubber drysuits (also made by Avon). Leant over the tubes to grab the painter, slipped on the very slippy (but very smart shiny looking) tubes, and ended up stuck inverted in the water. He also found it was a good way of amusing people on the shore.

Matt

Nick · 20 March 2003, 09:20

Silicon based products should not be used on tubes as it will make any repairs very difficult or impossible to do.

Manos · 20 March 2003, 09:31

You've been a great help!!
Will return the stuff

Going back to old washing up liquid and Armorall

Daniel · 20 March 2003, 10:23

Is sugar soap solution OK?

Manos · 20 March 2003, 10:25

Never tried that one Daniel.

Daniel · 20 March 2003, 10:29

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete7
Sugar soap as suggested by Alan P works well.

Pete

Neither have i Manos - Just would like to confirm this won't damage anything if i use it!

Manos · 20 March 2003, 11:40

I assume is part of sugar and soapy water (harmless what so ever I recon). But I do not think that this treatment will last for more than 5 mins when you put your boat in the water as sugar will dissolve.

I always used Fairy Liquid (not any other type of dish cleaner) and armorall for car tyres. The finish product looks very nice but again it only lasts for a week max if the boat is in the water.

I was just wondering that the silicon oil would have lasted a bit longer but reading the posts of the after effects I think is a big NO NO

Daniel · 20 March 2003, 11:43

Sugar soap, Manos, beleive it or not does not contain Sugar, and i dobout if it has any soap in it either. From what i understand it's a caustic solution. It's used to clean woodwork before painting. Hence the concern over using it on my tubes as Pete and Alan seam to suggest?

I agree with NOT using silicone though. Also, fairy liquid contains a degreasent, hence you should not use it for washing your car because it will take off the lacqur - so would we be better using a car shampoo?

Manos · 20 March 2003, 11:51

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Originally posted by Daniel
Sugar soap, ........it's a caustic solution.
......fairy liquid contains a degreasent,...........so would we be better using a car shampoo?

BL..Y H..L @##@#&
I didn't know that.

Forgive my ignorance!!
Car shampoo sounds like a good suggestion but I think that it also contains a light silicon solution as well or not??

I don't think Fairy Liquid is that bad?? I have been using the staff for evrything, boats, cars, bikes etc No damage so far.

Daniel · 20 March 2003, 11:57

Had a real problem with a car about 5 years ago - having had it repaired after an accident 6mnths later paint was flaking - lacqur peeling. The body shop guys told me repaired (ie hand painted) is not as resisting the degreasent as origional factory paint so most people who use some fairy liquid (or any washing up liquid for that matter) may never notice but it IS damaging it.

Makes sense really given that you dishes are greesy!!

Anyway car shampoo may well endeed have a silicone component - there are special RIB cleaning solutions but i don't agree with the £20 price tag so havent tried them. I've been using car shampoo WITHOUT wax (some have this built in).

Manos · 20 March 2003, 12:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Daniel
I've been using car shampoo WITHOUT wax (some have this built in).

Good idea will try it. Cheers

-<=[Tw18]=>- · 20 March 2003, 12:14

some more great advice, thank you

so a car shampoo without wax, done, will try

but what ploish would you recommend for buffing (by hand) and protecting the console and seats etc??? would it be fair to say you could also do this to your hull (non-antifouled) and gain any resonable perfermance over a regular powerwash even though kept on trailer other than it looking pretty

Manos · 20 March 2003, 13:05

Quote:

Originally posted by -<=[Tw18]=>-
but what ploish would you recommend for buffing (by hand) and protecting the console and seats etc???

This one

dgpw · 20 March 2003, 13:42

Try not to use a silicon based polish on the hull either. You will find that it will repell gell coat filler if you have to mend any scratches ect.

Manos · 20 March 2003, 14:02

Do you think that the Miracle Coat Boat Wax has silicone in it. On the back it says that :

"This product provides a lasting lustre and an extremely hard and durable coat that protects the finish against chalking, sunlight, salt spray, droppings dirt, grease etc Algea, 'grass', and dirt and grime will loosely adhere at the waterline and can be removed readily"

:eeek;

This is getting too b..y complicated LOLOL