SIS - Seating

[Seaflyer02]

Just seen this on eBay item number: 282230195635

It is a SIS- shock mitigating seat. Not seen these before and I wondered if any one knows anything about them, good/bad etc?

I have done a Google search and very little comes up. They appear to have just eBay listing and a FB page.

Seats look like something off Star wars. I thought the hole at the front of the seat was for if you were taken short! Apparently it is a drink holder, live and learn.

[Xk59D]

linky- marine shock mitigating jockey seat with stowage | eBay

yup i clocked them while looking at suspension seats last week.

they sold a pair last month at 600 quid each or so, they are now upto the price above so someone got a deal.

i know zero about them but perhaps someone will take a punt on them as they are substantially less than the "competition".

Ulmanns are £3200 plus vat, scots are £2200 plus vat as an example.

[jeffstevens763@g]

Cup holder looks comfy right next to ya nads

[Xk59D]

if you buy it without that seat base, maybe the backrest too and add your own current ones you maybe onto something for not a lot of money (in the suspension seat world anyway)

it looks like my ribcraft base would literally bolt onto that for example.

[Seaflyer02]

Thanks for the feedback Xk59D.
When you look at the shock seats the engineering in them is simple yet the price is eye watering. These SIS seats appear to have more work in them than some of the more expensive ones. I have considered making my own.
I wonder if these would work with a car rally/bucket seat instead of the one supplied?

[Xk59D]

the work in them is subjective i guess and therefore your opinion on value for money.

i have very little experience with suspension seats other than i've been to the scotseats factory recently. the scotseats IMO look better than the others as i like that skeletal look, there is quite a bit of work in a scotseat based on what i've seen as there is quite a lot of billet alum CNC, i don't think that makes them "value for money" from that sense though but they can charge what the market supports. as a side note they told me the navy not long ago ordered 450 seats so they are selling them.

with the above said, i believe my current ribcraft seats are about 1k each....so are these SIS ones are a "bargain" then?

i wouldn't have a bucket seat if you paid me on a rib, jockey is the way to go.

if i was seriously wanting these seats i would ask them to take off that seat cushion and buy/make your own. although it may be more comfortable than it looks ofcourse. it just doesn't look like you will be able to stand very well with their shape.

are you thinking of getting some?

[Seaflyer02]

At the moment I am just looking at options.
I think the real cost is in the R&D, certification rather than the actual engineering.
When I have watched some of the videos of suspension seats in use they do look impressive.


I know what you mean with trying to stand with that cushion shape, at least you wouldn't loose them they would be in the drink holder!

[Xk59D]

they sold a pair for 600 odd quid each not long ago (sept). i'm sure a phone call would get a deal if you have that sort of dosh sitting about, maybe worth a punt at that money and tell them you can review it on worlds best rib site...wink wink.

[jeffstevens763@g]

Originally Posted by Seaflyer02

Thanks for the feedback Xk59D.
When you look at the shock seats the engineering in them is simple yet the price is eye watering. These SIS seats appear to have more work in them than some of the more expensive ones. I have considered making my own.
I wonder if these would work with a car rally/bucket seat instead of the one supplied?

like these

[bedajim]

What about these guys?

Boat suspension seats for wave impact protection - Shark Seating

[Xk59D]

Those seats are 2k each plus vat, shipping and whatever conversion rate you get at time.

https://youtu.be/ZzB71C164NE

These are also similar prices.

[Seaflyer02]

Originally Posted by jeffstevens763@g

like these

Yes, I thought I had seen them somewhere.
Probably stick with standard jockey type.

[Seaflyer02]

Originally Posted by Xk59D

Those seats are 2k each plus vat, shipping and whatever conversion rate you get at time.

https://youtu.be/ZzB71C164NE

These are also similar prices.

Those look like well engineered units

[Xk59D]

yes they do, they are super quick replying to my emails too.

[MatFromPoland]

Originally Posted by bedajim

What about these guys?

Boat suspension seats for wave impact protection - Shark Seating

We have 2 jockey seats in front of console and 3 kids on rear bench.
I be very uneasy if any of my teens (3 items) seating behind my seat can put leg or hand in it:

[Xk59D]

they all look dangerous in that regard to some degree, some more than others granted.

if it is a concern then you can leave the bases covered to help.

[jeffstevens763@g]

i think its basic common sense everyone should remain seated when underway i would be more concerned that some one went overboard in conditions which would cause entrapment of the seat mechanism not being able to see them from the helm, dont forget its a damperd system designed to slow the impact.
i would and have always have had an adult sat with the kids anyway.

[dbq]

Anyone have any more information or have seen these seats in person. Great price on seat, very little to be found on the manufacturer

[Shark Seats]

Hi everyone, we found the forum!

Thanks to those who currently use our seats and for your positive comments on here.

To answer a couple of questions, you are right Xk59D, that many seats have pinch points and some are more dangerous than others (some looking more like execution apparatus than seats). Because the seats take so much force to get the springs close enough to pinch anything there is a very low risk of these types of injury. In sea states required to compress the springs enough, it would be very hard to have a body part in the wrong place, and there would be bigger concerns.

I have also personally placed my foot under one side of our spring unit and had a colleague completely bottom out the seat (with no shock installed). We took a video which I may be able to track down, but the result was reassuring. I would say it was similar to a 80kg person stepping on my foot, although not pleasant, certainly not overly painful, and certainly no bruising or injury. I was wearing crocks at the time so very little protection... I know, I am unbelievably fashionable.

For children this kind of force may cause an injury, but as I said it's hard to imagine this happening. I would certainly recommend close supervision of children, and having feet on the deck is important for this and posture reasons.

Regarding the price of suspension seats, our aim is to produce the highest performance seats available, at a lower price, with a focus on simple design principles, and modern high volume manufacturing processes (such as injection molding).

The price for a complete Jockey seat is currently around 1675 Pounds, and we are working hard to reduce this further without loosing any performance or quality.

Please see here for a brief intro on the forums:

http://www.rib.net/forum/f43/suspens...ing-76731.html

If you have any questions feel free to contact me anytime.

Cheers! .
Dan.

[Pikey Dave]

Welcome to Ribnet, you're certainly getting your money's worth out of the trade membership[emoji6]