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21 May 2005, 23:51
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
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Small Diesel RIB
I am looking at upgrading to a diesel RIB.
Can anyone tell me what is the smallest inboard RIB you can buy ?
I see Humber offer the 6.3 m Ocean Pro at a reasonable price, but is their a smaller RIB ?
I would like to get a Diesel RIB with 4 jockey seats 2 x 2 behind a double console. Anybody got any ideas.
Regards Nick R.
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22 May 2005, 00:07
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
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I would guess that you'll not be able to go below a 5.5m Rib, Nick. You just won't get the beam to accomodate a double console with anything smaller. The XS 550 is a really beamy boat, but I've never heard of a smoker in that size.
You fed up with your searider already .
Andy
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22 May 2005, 00:13
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RIBnet supporter
Country: Iceland
Town: Reykjavik
Boat name: Cheesee
Make: Seaquel 600 XS
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 275 Verado
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,959
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Solent Ribs do 6 metre one with Mercruiser 1,7 diesel 120 hp and it gives a nice and decent speed as well about 40 mph.
SimmondsO has got one and I am sure Harry will be more than happy to tell you all about it.
Bogi
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22 May 2005, 00:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W/Switzerland
Boat name: HotShot
Make: shakey
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Tohatsu TLDI
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Didn't avon make a small diesel RIB? I'm not sure if it was just in the development stages but it was on a thread a while ago.
Tim
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22 May 2005, 00:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W/Switzerland
Boat name: HotShot
Make: shakey
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Tohatsu TLDI
Join Date: Jul 2003
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22 May 2005, 01:12
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,931
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Hi Andy,
Not fed up of the Sea Rider, Just yet. But planning for the future.
I want a boat that is fun, reliable and econimical. I don't know if you can get such a boat but I'm starting to look now and plan 2 years ahead. I don't have bottomless pockets and want the next boat to last a few years.
I also want to be able to launch on quite a poor slip on my own. Hence the small size of boat. I also understand that even though Diesel is likely to lose its priviliged price position in the near future its still more economical than a traditional outboard, although slower and not as good looking.
I guess I'm just trying to cover all avenues.
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22 May 2005, 01:22
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RIBnet supporter
Country: Iceland
Town: Reykjavik
Boat name: Cheesee
Make: Seaquel 600 XS
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 275 Verado
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Good points Biggles
Situation over here at the moment boatowners have payed less than 30 p for their diesel litre while we outboarder (petrol guzzlers) are paying some 90 p a liter.
As from July 1st this should change or we the guzzlers will raise up to our two feet and protest as we should get our fuel down to 30 p price mark
Bogi
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22 May 2005, 09:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Isle of Wight
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 154
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I've been doing some research as I'm thinking of upgrading from my 4.5m RIB. You are correct that the smallest Humber that will take a diesel is a 6.3m.
http://www.explorer-marine.co.uk/ sell a large range of diesel RIBs. The smallest is 5.5m
However, the conclusion that I've drawn is that you need to do at least 100 hours per year to recover the higher purchase and installation cost. Also, what is the latest on red diesel?
Regards
Rich
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22 May 2005, 11:09
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Largs
Boat name: Spitfire
Make: XS850
Length: 8m +
Engine: 2 x 200 Verado
MMSI: 235905304
Join Date: May 2004
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A note of caution - I owned a Ribcraft 6.8m Offshore fitted with a Volvo KAD32 diesel. A nice boat, but definitely stern-heavy because of the weight of the diesel - hard work in a head sea. Waterline length and hull volume is all important when fitting a diesel engine, so small is not necessarily beautiful!
The Mercruiser 1.7L diesel is a popular choice in small RIBs and is certainly lighter than most diesels, but personally I'm not convinced that it's a good engine.
I love my 8.5m Tornado with 250hp Yanmar diesel , it's a beautifully balanced boat and very economical (5.5 gph @ 32 knots), but if circumstances ever force me to change for a smaller RIB I would go for an outboard installation, to avoid being stern-heavy again.
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22 May 2005, 11:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Torbay
Boat name: Marlin
Make: PBS humber 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: 115 optimax!!
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 352
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I own a Ribcraft 6.5m with a volvo D3-160. It doesn't appear to be stern heavy, but then the engine is 175kg lighter than the old KAD series. You do need to take into account the lost space inside from the diesel. I reckon there is as much space in mine as a 585 with an outboard. I am currently getting 36 knots out of her although the anti-fouling may knock a knot or two off
I'm really pleased with her
There are some pics in the gallery
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22 May 2005, 11:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Midlands
Make: Nautique
Length: 6m +
Engine: PCM 5.7l
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,082
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Solent 6m with the merc is great. Quick, handles well, looks good.
Also, while we were looking at ribs, humber would put the merc 120 into a 6m Destroyer aswell as the 6.3 ocean pro.
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23 May 2005, 23:15
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Dublin & Enniscrone
Boat name: K'adó
Make: Redbay
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 300
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 613
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Redbay
Biggles
Redbay regularily do 6.1 and 6.5 with Diesel. I think they are expecting a trade in of one soon. Try www.redbayboats.com. They make great boats but website isn't always up to date.
rgds
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24 May 2005, 08:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Make: Redbay 11m Cabin
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x Yamaha422Sti 275
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Coastline have one in this month Rib Int., get a good review (mind you who dosent ). I've been out in a few of their outboard powered boats and they are nice in the sea. Might be worth a look as it was certinally a good price.
Andy
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24 May 2005, 08:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: RocknRoller
Make: Revenger
Length: 4m +
Engine: 150 Yamaha
Join Date: Nov 2004
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I have seen that Ribtach have done a small inboard diesle boat. I think it was a 585 with a volvo engine it looked very nice.
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24 May 2005, 17:19
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Member
Country: France
Town: PARIS
Length: 7m +
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Does maintenance of the diesel engine and leg is less expensive than an outboard engine ?
Thanks
Phil
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24 May 2005, 18:34
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,931
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Craig,
I like the look of the Ribtec and would be interested to get some more details from them. Unfortunately their web site is down for maintenance and has been for a couple of weeks now. I shall keep trying though.
Regards Nick R.
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24 May 2005, 18:45
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,931
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Craig,
I've been trying to access the RIBTECH site, but its currently under reconstruction.
I would certainly consider a RIB tech.
Regards Nick R.
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24 May 2005, 19:01
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Newfoundland
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2000
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Ribtec did do a 585 or 6m RIB with the Volvo 105hp engine some years ago which was featured in several magazines. I think it went to a Yacht Club in Suffolk cos the last time I saw it was at Felixstowe Ferry a few years ago. That engine has been superseded by the new Volvo's & the 1.7 Mercruiser etc etc.
AFAIK a diesel engine is more expensive than an outboard to maintain. Of course this is just received wisdom and hearsay so in true rib.net style I will state it as an absolute fact and get into a massive flame war with anyone who dares disagree with me! (But there is some logic about an outboard being easier to access than an inboard diesel that would lead me to think that I am speaking somewhere near the truth.)
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24 May 2005, 21:50
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Carigaline/Baltimore
Boat name: XS-600
Make: XS-Ribs
Length: 6m +
Engine: Merc Optimax 150 XL
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 682
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Some info on Ribtecs here www.oceanquayribs.com
That website has been under construction for 3 or 4 months at least now!!
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24 May 2005, 23:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Darwin
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: 150hp Yamaha
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 382
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Small diesel rib?
I heard today that a certain owner of a certain London footbal club who has a passion for toys is having a "small" rib designed. 10 metres with twin 240 Yanmars on Hamilton jet drives - all purpose designed with touch key switches etc. Current cost? Around £250K and rising. Hmmmmmmmmm, I wonder if they need a test driver
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