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26 February 2014, 16:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: weymouth
Boat name: Amelia
Make: Atlantic, Searider's
Length: 7m +
Engine: 225hp, 90hp
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Smallest realistic Size of engine for sr5.4
Any ideas what is the smallest 4s for my sr5.4 I can get away with.
Do any of you use 50/60 4s and if so how do you get on
The hull is going to remain uncapped.
Does anyone know of a decent lump for sale??
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26 February 2014, 16:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 225
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Have used 40hp 2stokes on 5.4's take a while to drain the hull, but then ok once on the plane.
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27 February 2014, 08:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Daventry & Beaulieu
Boat name: Tigga2
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
MMSI: 235900806
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I occasionally use a SR 5.4 with a Honda 50 4 stroke, WOT 1 person, flat water, engine trimmed, 25 litres of fuel, 2 anchors. 26 kts, but it does take a while to empty the flooding hull with that amount of HP.
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27 February 2014, 08:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Daventry & Beaulieu
Boat name: Tigga2
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
MMSI: 235900806
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The one I use is a club safety boat and for that purpose it is ideal with a 50. I also use a tornado about the same length with a Honda 40 for RYA PB2 courses. Low fuel consumption and will still plane with 4 persons on flat water.
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27 February 2014, 09:07
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Acharacle
Boat name: Iolar
Make: Redbay
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Prolly not relevant but RYA national centre at Cumbrae use 60s on all their XS550s (think they are 550s, certainly feel pretty beamy) and they do ok 4 up.
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27 February 2014, 13:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: weymouth
Boat name: Amelia
Make: Atlantic, Searider's
Length: 7m +
Engine: 225hp, 90hp
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 372
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So as a safety boat/Rya level 2 craft 50/60hp 4stroke should be fine?
I'm just thinking the 50hp would struggle with 4 up in any moderate sea conditions.
I have been looking at mercury/mariner 60hp efi
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27 February 2014, 20:12
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Country: UK - England
Town: Leeds
Make: Valiant 450
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 55HP
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I've used one with an old mariner/ yammie 60 twin, performed fine. If it is a 4 stroke 60 hp would be my choice.
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28 February 2014, 07:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Daventry & Beaulieu
Boat name: Tigga2
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
MMSI: 235900806
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benjytaylor
So as a safety boat/Rya level 2 craft 50/60hp 4stroke should be fine? I'm just thinking the 50hp would struggle with 4 up in any moderate sea conditions. I have been looking at mercury/mariner 60hp efi
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You are correct, it would really struggle in any waves. The SR5.4 with the 50 and the Tornado with the 40 are used inland so never see waves more than a foot high, and usually it's "smooth". If using a SR5.4 in coastal waters I would want a 70.
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28 February 2014, 10:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
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A photographer chap on the IOW uses an old 5.4SR which had a 60hp Yam 2 stroke. Seemed to go OK.
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28 February 2014, 10:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 8,047
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Hi Ben,
I'm sure that Avon used to say that the minimum recommended hp for the SR's were:
SR4 - 25hp
SR4.7 - 40hp
SR5.4 - 60hp
However Zodiac have now removed these from the web and replaced them with recommended power:
SR4 - 40hp
SR4.7 - 50hp
SR5.4 - 80hp
But the Max hp have remained the same:
SR4 - 50hp
SR4.7 - 70hp
SR5.4 - 90hp
The links seam to be broken on the Zodiac page but here's a link to the milpro catalogue:
http://zodiacmilpro.com/ZodiacMilpro_Catalog.pdf
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28 February 2014, 11:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: weymouth
Boat name: Amelia
Make: Atlantic, Searider's
Length: 7m +
Engine: 225hp, 90hp
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 372
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Cheers whisper!
60hp it is then. Now to find a cheap 4st if anybody knows of one?
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28 February 2014, 12:03
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Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benjytaylor
Cheers whisper!
60hp it is then. Now to find a cheap 4st if anybody knows of one?
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I know of a cheap 60hp 4 stroke, but I won't post it on here in case it causes a bit of a frenzy
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28 February 2014, 12:18
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Portsmouth(ish)
Boat name: Wings
Make: Ribeye
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yamaha F115 AETL
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 615
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Queue the influx of PMs to Whisper's account!
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28 February 2014, 19:16
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Member
Country: Ireland
Make: Zodiac Mk I
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 hp Yam two stroke
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Old 5.4 specs............
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01 March 2014, 00:04
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Blairvadach outdoor centre used to run one with a Yam 60.
Cumbrae had one with twin 30s. It ran ok-ish if you weren't in a hurry when one engine packed up.
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01 March 2014, 13:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
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Engine: 250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boatnomad
Old 5.4 specs............
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40 to 85! Wow! A 40's small with a flooding hull...
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01 March 2014, 13:55
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Bubbas Bouy
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercruiser
Join Date: Mar 2011
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I realise it's all cost....but better to have a few spare horses inlet the lid and not need/use them, than to be shy a couple when you might just need it most.....
And unless you are very heavy with the hammer a larger engine not working as hard as a smaller engine pushing it at the same speed won't drink any/much more motion lotion...
Just a thought........
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01 April 2014, 09:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: weymouth
Boat name: Amelia
Make: Atlantic, Searider's
Length: 7m +
Engine: 225hp, 90hp
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris.moody
The one I use is a club safety boat and for that purpose it is ideal with a 50. I also use a tornado about the same length with a Honda 40 for RYA PB2 courses. Low fuel consumption and will still plane with 4 persons on flat water.
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Hi Chris,
So realistically if I was to keep the hull capped on the sr5.4 I could get on alright with my Yamaha 50 4s for a club safety boat
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01 April 2014, 09:39
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Central Belt of Scotland
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,066
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I use 50 Yammie 4 on my bombard 5.5 - does what I need and cheap to run!
S.
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01 April 2014, 19:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Daventry & Beaulieu
Boat name: Tigga2
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
MMSI: 235900806
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 984
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benjytaylor
Hi Chris, So realistically if I was to keep the hull capped on the sr5.4 I could get on alright with my Yamaha 50 4s for a club safety boat
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On flat (ish) water inland a SR5.4 with a 40 or 50 4s would be fine as a safety boat. For coastal work in bigger waves it would be a bit underpowered.
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