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24 October 2013, 08:34
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Viking
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 90hp
Join Date: Dec 2009
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smart tabs
Was thinking of buying smart tabs! Has anyone used these before? Where is the cheapest place to buy them?
Cheers
Chris
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24 October 2013, 09:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bournemouth
Boat name: Seadrive
Make: Capelli Tempest 470
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF70
MMSI: 235079113
Join Date: Jul 2008
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If you think you need tabs.... A hydrofoil is much quicker, cheaper and easier to fit and you'll probably get better results.
They're action is essentially automatic - working with the trim of the engine - fit & forget!
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24 October 2013, 10:39
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Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Viking
Make: Tornado
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Engine: Mariner 90hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by longjohn
If you think you need tabs.... A hydrofoil is much quicker, cheaper and easier to fit and you'll probably get better results.
They're action is essentially automatic - working with the trim of the engine - fit & forget!
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Have tried the hydrofoil before and didn't see much of a difference having it fitted that's why I was looking at the smart tabs.
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24 October 2013, 13:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bournemouth
Boat name: Seadrive
Make: Capelli Tempest 470
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF70
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Probably not much of a difference with tabs then either. What are you trying to correct?
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24 October 2013, 14:03
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Viking
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner 90hp
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Quicker time to get on the plane! Was going to get a prop as well which might help!
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24 October 2013, 14:10
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Gut feel form someone who used to have an "underpowered" boat (SR4/ 25HP) I also found the tabs did nothing.
Lower pitched prop will definiely help, BUT what about your top speed & max RPM?
Bottom line is - what do you use it for? - Cruising you are likely better sticking with "forever to plane" - as once on the plane you will be so much more appreciative of the speed / lower RPM.
If, however ytou are using it as a rescue boat, yes, reducing the time to plane will likely be more beneficial, as you only spend relatively short times flat out.
And if you do both? - Have 2 props & change to suit!
Wot Prop you got now? depending if you have a Yam or Merc respray I might have one you could borrow to test with....
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24 October 2013, 14:35
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Boat name: Viking
Make: Tornado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9D280
Gut feel form someone who used to have an "underpowered" boat (SR4/ 25HP) I also found the tabs did nothing. Lower pitched prop will definiely help, BUT what about your top speed & max RPM? Bottom line is - what do you use it for? - Cruising you are likely better sticking with "forever to plane" - as once on the plane you will be so much more appreciative of the speed / lower RPM. If, however ytou are using it as a rescue boat, yes, reducing the time to plane will likely be more beneficial, as you only spend relatively short times flat out. And if you do both? - Have 2 props & change to suit! Wot Prop you got now? depending if you have a Yam or Merc respray I might have one you could borrow to test with....
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Thanks for the reply.
Use the boat for rescue and cruising. There are no markings on the prop to say what pitch it is. It is a mercury 2012 4 stroke not sure if there is a standard prop that comes with it when new! Going out to test the boat on the forth on saturday so will let you know results!
Chris
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24 October 2013, 17:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bournemouth
Boat name: Seadrive
Make: Capelli Tempest 470
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki DF70
MMSI: 235079113
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Yes - sounds like you may be suffering from lack of power - I would have thought that a 60hp would be more suitable if you were wanting any kind of spirited performance. Very surprised that hydrofoils didn't help your on the plane performance. You certainly shouldn't be suffering from a stern heavy boat with that engine - so a lower pitched prop would seem to be the way to go.
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24 October 2013, 22:26
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Ollyit had some fitted to his SR4 a few years ago. It might be worth dropping him a PM.
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24 October 2013, 22:49
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A 40 HP on a 490 rib is a poor performer, worst being a 4 strokes which is kind of slow on hole shot. Install an induction tach, go for a wot spin with you alone on flat glassy waters and check max achieved RPM with current prop.
Check manufacturers working wot parameters to compare, will know how much under propped you could be. Can optimize engine performance by raising RPM to near max wot RPM playing with prop pitches. Withoiut a tach you're blindless playing with pitches.
Happy Boating
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