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28 November 2010, 21:59
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Originally Posted by hadd
The boats only 12 months old ,its still 2yrs warranty left on it .
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Get on his case and get it replaced. It's warrantied and at a guess CE Cat C marked, but I'm buggered if I'd take that out in anything more strenuous than CAT D waters. I thought it was a trick photograph for a bit that hull is flexing so badly.
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28 November 2010, 22:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,551
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Blimey - not even my Avon Adventure is like that ........
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28 November 2010, 22:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle
Boat name: Merlin
Make: RB4 Gemini 550
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90C
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,080
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does look like a lot of flex.
Have you looked at these...?
http://www.sbstrailers.co.uk/product...uctDisplay=234
If you dont want to go the bunk route, and want to spread
the load on the hull a bit better.
I know its not a dealer provided solution, but just something
to bare in mind.
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28 November 2010, 22:47
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Vancouver, BC Canada
Boat name: Black Ops
Make: Zodiac Hurricane 733
Length: 7m +
Engine: OceanPro 150hp x 2
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 248
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Don't wait. Polwart is right, get it dealt with now... the battle will not be any easier at the end of next season.
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28 November 2010, 23:05
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Country: UK - England
Boat name: Little Wing
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,069
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Although I prefer bunks to rollers there's lots of well made boats sitting on rollers without flexing problems so I don't think the trailer can be blamed.
This boat is seriously crap and there's no guarantee a replacement will be any better.
Go for a refund.
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28 November 2010, 23:43
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DM
This boat is seriously crap and there's no guarantee a replacement will be any better.
Go for a refund.
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Good point, and I reckon you're right. I wouldn't really want a like for like replacement!
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28 November 2010, 23:52
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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A quick search of the Members List shows 4 other Seapro owners on this forum. It may be worth contacting these guys to ask if they have experienced similar problems.
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29 November 2010, 02:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Warrington/Anglesey
Make: Menai 480SR.
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsoooooooo 70hp
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 665
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Get it back to BH marine asap.
I think that you could be in for a bit of a fight with that supplier.... BH love taking your money but are not very helpful when problems with their substandard products arise
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29 November 2010, 08:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hadd
The boats only 12 months old ,its still 2yrs warranty left on it .
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it won't heal itself, start the ball rolling now and do it by letter, you might still be getting lip flapping 2 years down the line, at least you can prove you complained early enough.
do the company make the boats or are they agents, if they're agents bypass them and go to the manufacturer
just another thought, who's to say the company will still be there next year even, get it sorted now
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29 November 2010, 11:21
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,934
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does the trailer not have keel rollers?
in my years of boating, boats this size and their trailers "usually" have one of the following-
1. bunks.
2. lower amount of normal hull rollers (usually 2/4 each side at front and 4 each side at back) PLUS 2/3 keel rollers.
example- http://www.compasstrailers.com/useri...SCF0453gif.gif
3. a lot of rollers at front and back (usually 6 at front and 8/10 on the back each side).
example http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/i...263_3.-450.jpg
if they give you another boat with same trailer i'd ask for the trailer setup to be looked at.
cheers
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29 November 2010, 11:55
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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I had cracks appear in a new rib of mine some years back, though it never flexed as much as your photos suggest. However, I took it back to the manufacturer who made some lame excuse about his laminator leaving out some woven roving. At the end of the day they built me a new hull and transferred tubes, engine etc across. A lot of grief for me and them but a good outcome. I think I was very lucky though as the company folded shortly afterwards.
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29 November 2010, 14:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yoyo
Get it back to BH marine asap.
I think that you could be in for a bit of a fight with that supplier.... BH love taking your money but are not very helpful when problems with their substandard products arise
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Have you had any past dealings with BH what was negative about the company ? In fact have any forum members got any feedback on this company good or bad . It would be very good ammo for "hadd" to fire at BH if needed and also for me and other seapro owners if we develop any hull problems in the future . I have only known BH from buying my rib off him and feed back from people who know him through engine servicing and repairs have told me BH is okay so some honest and accurate feedback of any problems with BH would be very welcome .
Many thanks ,
kerny .
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29 November 2010, 15:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
A quick search of the Members List shows 4 other Seapro owners on this forum. It may be worth contacting these guys to ask if they have experienced similar problems.
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I have had no flexing problems with mine and it seems to sit on the roller coaster trailer correctly .I will post some pics of the set up in the next few days if this will help . I do not know who the other two seapro owners are .....
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29 November 2010, 15:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
A quick search of the Members List shows 4 other Seapro owners on this forum. It may be worth contacting these guys to ask if they have experienced similar problems.
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I have had no flexing problems with mine and it seems to sit on the roller coaster trailer correctly .I will post some pics of the set up in the next few days if this will help . I do not know who the other two seapro owners are .....
Sorry not sure why this has come up twice
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29 November 2010, 17:01
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin
I had cracks appear in a new rib of mine some years back, though it never flexed as much as your photos suggest. However, I took it back to the manufacturer who made some lame excuse about his laminator leaving out some woven roving. At the end of the day they built me a new hull and transferred tubes, engine etc across. A lot of grief for me and them but a good outcome. I think I was very lucky though as the company folded shortly afterwards.
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Good old Prosport
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29 November 2010, 17:16
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: west wales
Make: humber destroyer 5m
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90 yamaha
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 202
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If this boat were mine I would
1.Get it surveyed,provided the surveyor thinks it's as crap as we all do then;-
2.Send a 'notice of intent' letter by recorded delivery with a copy of the survey
stating exactly what you want ie,refund or the boat fixed (I'd favour a refund) the boat seems not to be of merchantable quality or fit for the purpose intended. Your contract is with the dealer not the manufacturer.
3.Money claim online small claims summons or go and see a solicitor
Don't hang about in case they wind the company up on you.
Really go for it,the customer thats a bloody nuisance always gets sorted first.
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29 November 2010, 17:35
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Member
Country: UK - N Ireland
Boat name: *
Make: replacement soon!
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 149
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weight distribution
Folks this is an interesting read and can anyone give an idea of the weight distribution e.g. how much should be on the keel rollers?
Cheers
David
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29 November 2010, 18:58
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#38
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Member
Country: Canada
Town: Vancouver, BC Canada
Boat name: Black Ops
Make: Zodiac Hurricane 733
Length: 7m +
Engine: OceanPro 150hp x 2
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 248
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJS
Folks this is an interesting read and can anyone give an idea of the weight distribution e.g. how much should be on the keel rollers?
Cheers
David
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The weight should be supported by keel rollers, the others guide/hold it in place.
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29 November 2010, 21:02
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#39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: manchester
Boat name: nitrox
Make: F-rib
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15hp
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 159
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bh marine have been goin for 30 yrs and have a very good rep, but his son seems to run the company now, which i think has lost its tread. i known bh for a long time dealing with him for club diving boats, engines etc i,m sure (with arm up his back) he will sort your boat out, the trailer needs to be a bunk type hope you get a result neal
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29 November 2010, 21:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 7,078
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Very similar situation with this Avon , does anyone know if it has been resolved .
http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...on+hull+damage
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