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16 November 2019, 18:50
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Cascais, Portugal
Boat name: Port Edgar
Make: Avon Adventurer 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner F90 ELPT
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 11
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SSR Part 3 in Portugal
Just wondering if anyone has their rib registered SSR part 3 and keep the boat permanently in Portugal for holidays ?
Any help is welcome
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16 November 2019, 22:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Boat name: HAPPY NOW
Make: Cobra
Length: 8m +
Engine: Mercury 350
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 205
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Hi, I keep my RIB in Lagos all year with SSR Part 111. Only have to show it when arriving at a new marina
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17 November 2019, 10:28
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Cascais, Portugal
Boat name: Port Edgar
Make: Avon Adventurer 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner F90 ELPT
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 11
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Hello,
So you have your boat in the Lagos Marina all year round ?
Have you ever been stopped by the Policia Maritima ?
Is your boat insured with a UK company ?
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17 November 2019, 12:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Alvor
Boat name: Veronica Ann
Make: Maestral 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 35
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Hi, I keep my RIB at Portimao permanently. In my opinion it is worth getting SSR. When I arrived at Santander, towing the boat off the ferry I was immediately stopped by Spanish customs who asked to see Registration docs, passport etc. I was away within 30 minutes, I guess I would have been much longer without SSR as they take it as proof of ownership when matched with passport and insurance docs etc.
Now I am Portugal on several occasions I have been asked for SSR, when stopped by marine GNR and when I pay Light Dues at the Marine Authority office.
I have my RIB insured with a Portuguese company, it's cheaper than UK, as are mooring fees and marine services generally.
Grant.
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18 November 2019, 18:43
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Cascais, Portugal
Boat name: Port Edgar
Make: Avon Adventurer 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mariner F90 ELPT
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 11
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Thanks for your replies.
Grant, which Portuguese insurance company do you have your insurance with ?
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19 November 2019, 13:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Alvor
Boat name: Veronica Ann
Make: Maestral 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by canterix41
Thanks for your replies.
Grant, which Portuguese insurance company do you have your insurance with ?
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Mutua dos Pescadores in Portimao, never had a problem, but then, never had a claim. There are others.
Grant.
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19 November 2019, 13:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Originally Posted by Grant Garwood
Mutua dos Pescadores in Portimao, never had a problem, but then, never had a claim. There are others.
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Going slightly off-piste,
Is there any easy way for a non-Portuguese national to obtain a fishing permit. I have to do it by email before I leave the uk direct with the DGRM, & pay by international bank transfer. The bank fees are more than the fishing permit costs.
Can they be bought locally “over the counter”?
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19 November 2019, 15:14
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Alvor
Boat name: Veronica Ann
Make: Maestral 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Going slightly off-piste,
Is there any easy way for a non-Portuguese national to obtain a fishing permit. I have to do it by email before I leave the uk direct with the DGRM, & pay by international bank transfer. The bank fees are more than the fishing permit costs.
Can they be bought locally “over the counter”?
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Yes Dave you can, visit the local Direção Regional de Agricultura e Pescas, ask for Licenca de Pesca Ludica, show your passport, hand over €50 and you're done. (Pun intended) There isn't a DRAP in every town, more a regional thing, I'm lucky I have one in Portimao and renewed mine as I described last month. Where will you be entering Portugal? Where will you initially be fishing?
Grant.
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19 November 2019, 16:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant Garwood
Yes Dave you can, visit the local Direção Regional de Agricultura e Pescas, ask for Licenca de Pesca Ludica, show your passport, hand over €50 and you're done. (Pun intended) There isn't a DRAP in every town, more a regional thing, I'm lucky I have one in Portimao and renewed mine as I described last month. Where will you be entering Portugal? Where will you initially be fishing?
Grant.
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Cheers Grant. I assume the €50 is an annual one. We pay about a tenner for a month long one, the interbank fees are around the £30 mark[emoji849]. We’ll be entering portugal somewhere between Rosal & Alcoutim & then keeping inland around the back of the Algarve & heading to Sagres. So Sagres will be our first sea outing. The plan is to work our way up to Porto & then follow the Douro back into Spain.
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19 November 2019, 17:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Alvor
Boat name: Veronica Ann
Make: Maestral 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Cheers Grant. I assume the €50 is an annual one. We pay about a tenner for a month long one, the interbank fees are around the £30 mark[emoji849]. We’ll be entering portugal somewhere between Rosal & Alcoutim & then keeping inland around the back of the Algarve & heading to Sagres. So Sagres will be our first sea outing. The plan is to work our way up to Porto & then follow the Douro back into Spain.
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Yes Dave €50 for the year.
I'm not 100% sure you can get a temporary one at the DRAP, I'm over to Portimao in the next day or two, I'll pop in and ask them and let you know.
Grant.
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19 November 2019, 17:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant Garwood
Yes Dave €50 for the year.
I'm not 100% sure you can get a temporary one at the DRAP, I'm over to Portimao in the next day or two, I'll pop in and ask them and let you know.
Grant.
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Cheers, much appreciated.
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22 November 2019, 12:04
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Alvor
Boat name: Veronica Ann
Make: Maestral 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant Garwood
Yes Dave €50 for the year.
I'm not 100% sure you can get a temporary one at the DRAP, I'm over to Portimao in the next day or two, I'll pop in and ask them and let you know.
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Dave, the good news is that you can get a temp (1 month) fishing license over the counter at the DRAP, cost €12. The nearest DRAP to Sagres is my local one at Portimao, 37.135360, -8.524371. There is another at Faro but I would imagine you would be dropping down to the N125 at Portimao anyway en route to Sagres.
Grant.
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22 November 2019, 13:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grant Garwood
Dave, the good news is that you can get a temp (1 month) fishing license over the counter at the DRAP, cost €12. The nearest DRAP to Sagres is my local one at Portimao, 37.135360, -8.524371. There is another at Faro but I would imagine you would be dropping down to the N125 at Portimao anyway en route to Sagres.
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Brilliant, thanks a lot[emoji106]
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22 November 2019, 13:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Brilliant, thanks a lot[emoji106]
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Just had a look in Google, we drove past that this year[emoji849]. I’ll be launching the SIB at the slip next year for a dip & to explore the caves.
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Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
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22 November 2019, 14:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Chesterfield
Boat name: Sea Quell
Make: Picton Cobra
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 4 Stroke
MMSI: 235038298
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,095
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Going slightly off-piste,
Is there any easy way for a non-Portuguese national to obtain a fishing permit. I have to do it by email before I leave the uk direct with the DGRM, & pay by international bank transfer. The bank fees are more than the fishing permit costs.
Can they be bought locally “over the counter”?
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Hi Dave - check out Monese. Its a bank via an App and you can open a £ and € account. Makes transfers very cheap. Used it recently to pay a German company .... no transaction fee, and inter-bank rates. I moved money from my £ account into my € account and then paid from the €. For some reason this worked out better than paying in € from the £ account ( its not as complicated as I've made out)
If you PM me with your mobile i can send a link and I may get a few € for the introduction lol
Jeff
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22 November 2019, 14:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff
Hi Dave - check out Monese. Its a bank via an App and you can open a £ and € account. Makes transfers very cheap. Used it recently to pay a German company .... no transaction fee, and inter-bank rates. I moved money from my £ account into my € account and then paid from the €. For some reason this worked out better than paying in € from the £ account ( its not as complicated as I've made out)
If you PM me with your mobile i can send a link and I may get a few € for the introduction lol
Jeff
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Sounds interesting, I’ll drop you a PM with my number.
Cheers[emoji106]
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Rule#2: Never argue with an idiot. He'll drag you down to his level & then beat you with experience.
Rule#3: Tha' can't educate pork.
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22 November 2019, 15:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Alvor
Boat name: Veronica Ann
Make: Maestral 560
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Just had a look in Google, we drove past that this year[emoji849]. I’ll be launching the SIB at the slip next year for a dip & to explore the caves.
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Give me a shout and if I'm around we'll meet up for that beer.
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22 November 2019, 22:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Bluefin
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp
MMSI: Ex Directory
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 347
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Going slightly off-piste,
Is there any easy way for a non-Portuguese national to obtain a fishing permit. I have to do it by email before I leave the uk direct with the DGRM, & pay by international bank transfer. The bank fees are more than the fishing permit costs.
Can they be bought locally “over the counter”?
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Have a look here Dave ........... there is always good info on the EU section of WSF ......
https://www.worldseafishing.com/foru...licence.90870/
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