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Old 26 January 2017, 15:53   #1
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standing seat/arm chair or regular chair for driving

Well' another question regarding my RIB order and fitting accessories:

I was advised that it would be easier to drive the RIB standing not sitting when it is center console rib with throttle not tiller, in choppy open sea.

is that true?

second question, there are seats just to support your back and neck while driving standing where actually they can't be sit on. Do you think such seat is helpful? grab rail won't be enough or it is then hard situation using one hand on grab rail the other on the throttle!

If i am convinced standing seat it is not elementary, I will choose seat where i can actually sit on-but not while driving rather while fishing.

would love getting your help here as well!
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Old 26 January 2017, 15:59   #2
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Traditional seats don't provide much shock mitigation. It is cheaper to stand and lean against a bolster...then your legs absorb the impacts.

There are shock mitigating sit-down seats available, but they are expensive.

A jockey console is somewhere between the two options.
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Jockey seats are well proven and pretty ubiquitous on UK made (rough weather RIBs) they lower the centre of gravity compared to Bolster type seating and you can stand and brace against them too if you wish as many do!! ...plus they provide dry storage are better for children and the elderly will take wing-backs,and on long runs IMO are more comfortable and less tiring
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Traditional seats don't provide much shock mitigation. It is cheaper to stand and lean against a bolster...then your legs absorb the impacts.

There are shock mitigating sit-down seats available, but they are expensive.

A jockey console is somewhere between the two options.
thanks Richard
shock mitigation would be as mentioned too expensive.

in case choosing bolster, how close should it be fixed from the console and stering wheel and throttle? anybody has an idea?

regarding jocky, sounds fine but down side is probably getting tention on back/but, and less area covered by sigth compared to while standing..

i need to do some more thinking here to decide finally..
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Jockey seats are well proven and pretty ubiquitous on UK made (rough weather RIBs) they lower the centre of gravity compared to Bolster type seating and you can stand and brace against them too if you wish as many do!! ...plus they provide dry storage are better for children and the elderly will take wing-backs,and on long runs IMO are more comfortable and less tiring
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Indeed, Jockys are very popular in UK as i noticed!

you think they are more comfortable compared to standing with support of bolster or compared to a regular seating?
won't they be a bit painful to back and butt?
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Jockey seats are well proven and pretty ubiquitous on UK made (rough weather RIBs) they lower the centre of gravity compared to Bolster type seating and you can stand and brace against them too if you wish as many do!! ...plus they provide dry storage are better for children and the elderly will take wing-backs,and on long runs IMO are more comfortable and less tiring
all that Maximus has said shock mitigation seats are best but if on a budget go jockey seats and ask if they can do progressive foam cushions I had some made before buying shock seats and they worked well. Don't forget you will want to sit comfortably for a big part of the day fishing etc winged back rests are good which hold you in the seat better and also when standing to rest against.
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all that Maximus has said shock mitigation seats are best but if on a budget go jockey seats and ask if they can do progressive foam cushions I had some made before buying shock seats and they worked well. Don't forget you will want to sit comfortably for a big part of the day fishing etc winged back rests are good which hold you in the seat better and also when standing to rest against.
I think the OP was asking about either Jockey or Bolster seats...
I'm in agreement...
I favour Ullman's on my own RIB which I've had for several seasons now and certainly found them the absolute best all round seat I've used..
I also have a couple of Ribcraft Jockey Wingback's...which work well...and are certainly good enough for passengers!
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I think the OP was asking about either Jockey or Bolster seats...
I'm in agreement...
I favour Ullman's on my own RIB which I've had for several seasons now and certainly found them the absolute best all round seat I've used..
I also have a couple of Ribcraft Jockey Wingback's...which work well...and are certainly good enough for passengers!
Wingback Rest? is it a jocky with back rest? that is new phrase to me. I should search for that.
If someone can direct me to a typical picture of that it would be great.

Another question, bolsters don't allow you sitting on them-they support you when standing only..or there is intermediate of the two?
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Wingback Rest? is it a jocky with back rest? that is new phrase to me. I should search for that.
If someone can direct me to a typical picture of that it would be great.

Another question, bolsters don't allow you sitting on them-they support you when standing only..or there is intermediate of the two?
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Wingback Rest? is it a jocky with back rest? that is new phrase to me. I should search for that.
If someone can direct me to a typical picture of that it would be great.

Another question, bolsters don't allow you sitting on them-they support you when standing only..or there is intermediate of the two?
There are bench seats that have a bolster that hinges forward for standing and leaning against some are shaped to give more support for sideward movement
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What category do you think these 2 seats stands for? Does the seat in the red boat seems to be fixed or adjustable? Possible to sit on?
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What category do you think these 2 seats stands for? Does the seat in the red boat seems to be fixed or adjustable? Possible to sit on?
it looks like it can hinge back 180 degrees so you would sit on the fiberglass i can not zoom in enough to confirm.
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it looks like it can hinge back 180 degrees so you would sit on the fiberglass i can not zoom in enough to confirm.
Thank you.
After china holidays i will ask for more details. In case it can hinge it would be a good choice for me.
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There are bench seats that have a bolster that hinges forward for standing and leaning against some are shaped to give more support for sideward movement
You can also get this format as single seats.
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Another option for seating that may be of interest...

http://www.rib.net/forum/f43/suspens...ing-76731.html

We produce these in New Zealand and are doing our best to make suspension seats more accessible to people.

Hope it's of interest,
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sameh i combine leaning post and bench seat, and make a taller bench box. have a look at picture.



i can lean during ride, my ass feels comfortable, easy to handle steering wheel at rough sea when waves are in between 1-1.5 mt

i get inspired from narwhall bench seats.
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sameh i combine leaning post and bench seat, and make a taller bench box. have a look at picture.



i can lean during ride, my ass feels comfortable, easy to handle steering wheel at rough sea when waves are in between 1-1.5 mt

i get inspired from narwhall bench seats.

That looks positively Dangerous!...Thats not a seat!...Rough weather obviously means different things yo different people
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That looks positively Dangerous!...Thats not a seat!...Rough weather obviously means different things yo different people
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i agree standing at rough sea is the best way
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i agree standing at rough sea is the best way
I think you can still get nasty injuries standing in rough seas, here is a video showing someone standing at the rear of the boat, where slamming should be the least severe. A lot of force still travels through the joints and muscles fatigue from countering these forces.
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