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Old 30 October 2018, 21:35   #1
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stern bilge pumps

thinking of fitting a bilge pump to the stern and wondered where do you get power for it. all my cables run in a tube from helm to stern so difficult to tap into.
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I'm guessing the best place will be from a 12v battery.

Both my pumps are wired to the console switches which in turn goto the batts.
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stern bilge pumps

thanks for that
but where do you run the cables. i mean i wanted my powwer cable to rub in the tube carrying eveything else but they wont go (no room) and wouldnt wan lines running along the deck
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Surely there is room for some 12-14awg wire in the tube?

Both mine go through the deck glands along with all other cables.
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stern bilge pumps

its feeding it through i think would be a problem
not tried so maybe easier than i think
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its feeding it through i think would be a problem
not tried so maybe easier than i think
Lube lots of lube... and a draw wire or rod, wire isn’t stiff enough to push through a conduit....


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Google cable puller.

I'd never seen that cable lubricant before but if £5.65 saves any more than about 10 minutes of swearing, then it will be worthwhile.
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Go to cef and buy a conduit threader made of nylon that will pi$$ through
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Google cable puller.

I'd never seen that cable lubricant before but if £5.65 saves any more than about 10 minutes of swearing, then it will be worthwhile.
When you have pulled the runs I have pulled through tortuous duct runs you will wonder how you ever managed without it!

used to be hard to find but now even screwfix sells it....

“More lube, more lube, more lube, you can never have too much lube...”

Just apply after taping the draw line on......
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Lube lots of lube... and a draw wire or rod, wire isn’t stiff enough to push through a conduit....


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Pulling lubricant? That is a wind up surely! If you are having to pay for pulling lube I wouldn't waste it on the bilge pump

Bit of soapy water will get cables through the tube no worries and I would be surprised if no rope there you haven't noticed to pull the cables through.
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Bit of net curtain wire will generally push though ok. ..ebay cheep as chips
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thinking of fitting a bilge pump to the stern and wondered where do you get power for it. all my cables run in a tube from helm to stern so difficult to tap into.
all suggestions very welcome.
See if you have a cable/wire already running in the conduit that you can disconnect. Attach the new wire for the bilge pump and some strong string to the disconnected cable and use this to pull the two others through. Then use the string to pull the original cable/wire back to where it was and reconnect.

Top tip, add another string to the final stage and leave it in the under deck conduit tied off at each end in case you ever need to run another cable/wire through at a later stage.

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bilge pump

thnaks andy
food for thought.
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This will sort it

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Thought about just buying a new boat with a bilge pump?

Too much hassle this lot.
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Talcum Powder works great and is cheap. If you dont have a pull through cable or string then disconnect something and put a length of small rope, cable or string to the disconnected end at the helm, make sure its at least twice length of boat then pull through, then reconnect what youve just pulled out and attach two wires for connecting to bilge pump and pull all back through. yes its a pain but it is do-able.
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Use tinned cable.
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