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15 June 2007, 14:09
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Surface drives on a rib?
Anyone have it... ? Arneson or other brand..
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15 June 2007, 14:56
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i think i saw an advert for a Pascoe with twin Arnesons, something like 1000hp!
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15 June 2007, 15:30
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OK, and Fabio Buzzi have some 2. Anyone us it on a smaller rib...
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15 June 2007, 15:45
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OK, and Fabio Buzzi have some 2. Anyone us it on a smaller rib...
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Any surface drive boat isn't gonna be very small. You need two inboards to drive them, two sets of transmission, the drives themselves stick out about 4ft. Your not going to wrap that lot up in a 21ft hull. Your talking big, quick boats with this kind of set-up.
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15 June 2007, 15:54
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Crompton used to make ribs with surface drives-at least, when they sold the company assets there were a load of surface drives for sale.
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15 June 2007, 16:25
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You don´t need 2...and for smaller engines they are not so big...
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15 June 2007, 16:51
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You don´t need 2...and for smaller engines they are not so big...
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Umm, I did see that after a google. Not sure where the advantage would be over say, an Alpha One drive though.
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15 June 2007, 17:28
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One of the Hot Lemon's (Mike Deacon's boats) was a surface drive. IIRC it was a 8.5m Scorp with a 300hp diesel & trimax drive. Very fast but big problem with surface drives is that they are not trimmable. Also lousy manoeuverability in reverse! 
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15 June 2007, 20:55
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One of the Hot Lemon's (Mike Deacon's boats) was a surface drive. IIRC it was a 8.5m Scorp with a 300hp diesel & trimax drive. Very fast but big problem with surface drives is that they are not trimmable. Also lousy manoeuverability in reverse! |
I have pics on a 27foot rib with some kind of Surface Drives on it. But i can´t take pics to this computer....today. If you take arneson they are trimmable up and down...
If you haven´t seen this video....Take a look.
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16 June 2007, 08:08
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trimax drive. Very fast but big problem with surface drives is that they are not trimmable.
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Most of them are, with the exception of a trimax. Here's some pics.
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16 June 2007, 09:30
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Here's one, although not quite the same finesse as the Trimax, that was designed for a military application a few years back.
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16 June 2007, 09:37
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TP Marine
Are those also surface drives?
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16 June 2007, 12:25
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What happened to the EPS Tigershark(Pascoe) fitted with the Ecodrive? RIB mag promised a full review but haven't heard a peep since.
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16 June 2007, 16:27
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And what about the 'Yellowfin' (Variable Surface Drive)? It arrived at one of the shows as 'the next big thing', offering efficiency, acceleration, speed increases, etc, and then nothing!!
It also boasted good manouverability at low speed (look at the vids on the website).
www.yellowfin.com
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16 June 2007, 16:58
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Originally Posted by DGR
And what about the 'Yellowfin' (Variable Surface Drive)? It arrived at one of the shows as 'the next big thing', offering efficiency, acceleration, speed increases, etc, and then nothing!!
It also boasted good manouverability at low speed (look at the vids on the website).
www.yellowfin.com
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Was that similar to the Daf Variomatic system?
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4...mg0180w6gr.jpg
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17 June 2007, 00:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DGR
And what about the 'Yellowfin' (Variable Surface Drive)? It arrived at one of the shows as 'the next big thing', offering efficiency, acceleration, speed increases, etc, and then nothing!!
It also boasted good manouverability at low speed (look at the vids on the website).
www.yellowfin.com
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I don't expect that to be out just yet - still early days. There is already a german rival offering a similar system proving there is nothing really new and that patents are only as good as the lawyers who enforce them!!!
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17 June 2007, 18:26
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price
What is the price of such a surface drive?
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18 June 2007, 20:53
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I believe that it was described as an 'alternative' to mercruiser drives. I assumed that this 'alternative' means that it's similar in price...... 
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16 April 2018, 12:25
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Quote:
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Anyone have it... ? Arneson or other brand..
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Yup. I have a Ring Povercraft Fantasma 45. With Jolly drives
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16 April 2018, 16:32
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Here is one of ours. An 11.5m with twin 550hp and Arneson's.
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