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26 January 2007, 20:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Pagham Harbour
Boat name: Scallywag
Make: Arran 16
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Suspension Seating
Hello
I need to find some form of suspension seating. My wife had a bad back and had an operation recently on her lower back and after three months is now ready to go back to work.
The even better news us that she is keen to try to get to some calm Solent boating
However I want to replace the bucket seat with some form of suspension seat. I am aware of Ullman Jockeys which I am sure are very effective and equally as expensive.
Are there any alternatives to consider, if not I will bite the bullet and buy an Ullman seat if it keeps her safe from injury.
Martin
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26 January 2007, 20:51
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Originally Posted by Martin
Hello
I need to find some form of suspension seating. My wife had a bad back and had an operation recently on her lower back and after three months is now ready to go back to work.
The even better news us that she is keen to try to get to some calm Solent boating
However I want to replace the bucket seat with some form of suspension seat. I am aware of Ullman Jockeys which I am sure are very effective and equally as expensive.
Are there any alternatives to consider, if not I will bite the bullet and buy an Ullman seat if it keeps her safe from injury.
Martin
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I think redbay have someone elses seats. Try PMing AndyGee on here - I *think* he has them in his redbay.
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26 January 2007, 21:30
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Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
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Obviously I don't know what specific problem your wife had, but is it worth considering bucket seats instead? While they don't give (as much) direct vertical cushioning, they do have a lot more support overall meaning she won't need to rely on her back muscles to hold her in place as much.
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26 January 2007, 21:35
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...or even the best of both worlds... a suspension bucket seat? One of the best examples is installed on Sir Charles Blois' RIB which recently performed very well in the Red Sea RIB rally. I do believe that his seats are a one-off though.
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26 January 2007, 21:58
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Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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Make: SR5.4
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How long is it for? Temp or permanent?
It might be worth seeing if a Renault Midliner truck seat air suspension unit from a breakers would be usable They are a totally self-contained unit with a built in dial/pressure adjuster.
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26 January 2007, 22:00
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ullman 750
Ullman Compact 750
£1650 each
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26 January 2007, 22:10
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This could be a neater design. There's a Vid of a guy in suposed rough water (think he's faking it a bit) but it kinda gives you and Idea.
http://upnorthoutdoorstv.com/boatchair384.wmv
Website: http://www.smoothmovesseatmounts.com/
And it's only $270
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26 January 2007, 22:15
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So who's gonna buy one then? It really looks quite cool, if a little flimsy.
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26 January 2007, 22:24
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Originally Posted by Hightower
think he's faking it a bit
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from what I could see of the water there was very little waves and the boat never moves relative to the horizon - which all suggests he was jumping up and down not going over big waves...
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26 January 2007, 22:29
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26 January 2007, 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
from what I could see of the water there was very little waves and the boat never moves relative to the horizon - which all suggests he was jumping up and down not going over big waves... ![flame](https://www.rib.net/forum/images/smilies/flame.gif)
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It does give you an Idea though Polwart. Just need everything in stainless steel.
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27 January 2007, 00:47
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Martin, our seats are these. They are also fitted with a 4 point harness which I thoughly recommend. The seat is capable of looking after someone who can't look after themselves. It's adjustable in all sorts of ways to give support to various shapes of occupant. However, it isn't the sort of thing you'd want to leave exposed to the elements full time. Covers would be pretty much essential. And for marine use you'll need double dampers fitted rather than a single one because they'll heat up when travelling over a bumpy sea for a while.
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27 January 2007, 07:03
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KAB seats
Hello JW
Just to clarify, the KAB seat you have has 12 V power feed (up through floor?) and integral compressor and 4 point intgral harness?
Is it yours an open rib or is the seat protected from elements by cabin?
Kab seats I have seen may be a base model ie no power required and no integral harness/belt
thanks
Paul
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27 January 2007, 07:21
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Originally Posted by Hightower
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That looks interesting, so I emailed them for more details.
The price is just for the suspension bracket, and doesn't include the seat or the pedestal. I reckon it could work on a RIB though using bucket seats and a low GRP mounting pod. They have 6" of fore and aft adjustment too which would be a bonus.
Oh, and Polwart was right about the video: "I read the post`s you linked and yes to be honest the day we had a film crew with it was not the roughest so we did what we could to show how they work. We will be shooting a new segment as soon as we can get it done."
John
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27 January 2007, 09:01
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Hi the suspension seats shown earlier in this thread are nothing more than tractor seats with a pivot base i can get these seats for about 50 quid!!brand new
but if everyone is paying over a grand for them i will sell them for ooo say 800 quid let me know how many you want
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27 January 2007, 09:09
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So who's gonna buy one then? It really looks quite cool, if a little flimsy.
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hi hightower these re not flimsey at all i have had one on my tractor for 5 years and no trouble you can also adjust for indevidual weight of occupant.
my tractor has no cab so the seat is fully exposed an d after 5 yrs still no rust
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27 January 2007, 09:12
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Town: Hampshire
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Make: Nimbus Nova
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just for info, JBT Marine are now doing suspension seats - may be worth pm'ng RIVA
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27 January 2007, 09:30
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Originally Posted by Clive
hi hightower these re not flimsey at all i have had one on my tractor for 5 years and no trouble you can also adjust for indevidual weight of occupant.
my tractor has no cab so the seat is fully exposed an d after 5 yrs still no rust
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I meant these ones: http://www.smoothmovesseatmounts.com/
Is that the ones you have in your tractor?
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27 January 2007, 09:32
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thanks donut
Yes we have been involved in design and testing a jocky suspension seat.
It’s been used commercially for about two years now on passenger ribs and works well, we are looking at fetching it into Europe this year or next. Anyone @ Cape Town boat show this year would have seen it
It is concidriblely less to buy than others in the market place.
The only down side is the volume at the moment does not exist to make it a viable import
I will let you know if we decide to fetch it in
J
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27 January 2007, 09:45
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But you have some seats to play around with in the Solent? I might be interested in seeing one of these seats. Could be a nice addition to my next boat.
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