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23 May 2016, 20:00
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That could have ended so much worse...
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23 May 2016, 21:05
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Very interested to see why
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23 May 2016, 21:41
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Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
That could have ended so much worse...
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Could it? That sounds like a Daily Mail Click Bait headline. In reality I think it was just about as bad as it gets: abandoning ship, swimming for shore, boat sinking. It would only have "ended worse" if they crew didn't use their training and experience.
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23 May 2016, 21:51
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And cynics say RNLI Volunteers don't risk their lives - in this case for some tw@t who was safely ashore :-(
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23 May 2016, 22:00
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Luckily they were only 200m from shore! Must have been a pretty bad fire for the crew to bail, I wonder what they would do with casualty onboard? Does the d class carry a life raft?
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23 May 2016, 22:05
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Originally Posted by HDAV
Luckily they were only 200m from shore! Must have been a pretty bad fire for the crew to bail, I wonder what they would do with casualty onboard?
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he's going for a swim too!
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Does the d class carry a life raft?
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No.
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24 May 2016, 07:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
Could it? That sounds like a Daily Mail Click Bait headline. In reality I think it was just about as bad as it gets: abandoning ship, swimming for shore, boat sinking. It would only have "ended worse" if they crew didn't use their training and experience.
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Not being 200m from shore I'd think could have made it worse... I don't fancy swimming say a mile in RNLI Dry Suit and Life Jacket. They don't carry PLBs or Hand Held VHFs do they - so if they'd been a mile out they'd have been relying on the VHF Mayday they made before abandoning ship (not a task I'd fancy doing depending how quickly I was burning up) or their colleagues being in their search zone and seeing the fire or their hand held flare.
But is that also not my point you argumentative git... ...it COULD have ended so much worse. You are usually quick to jump in when someone says "that was lucky" - I didn't I stated a FACT - it COULD have ended up worse... ...if I'd stated that they were lucky I'd have fully expected you to be prattling on about "was it luck or was it experience and training".
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24 May 2016, 08:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
......you argumentative git...
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Oh! The irony😏
Sh1t happens
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24 May 2016, 08:42
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Glad someone agrees Poly can be that way. He's not often "technically" wrong in what he says but it does get annoying when posts are picked to death sometimes. It can turn a conversational thread in to an argument that detracts from the thread itself.
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24 May 2016, 08:58
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Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
Not being 200m from shore I'd think could have made it worse... I don't fancy swimming say a mile in RNLI Dry Suit and Life Jacket.
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personally I'd rather have been a mile from shore and waited for the lift that would inevitably have been provided. Even without a mayday, no comms to CG would have raised the alarm, and of course with other assets searching on land and sea you'd need to be pretty unlucky for a fire on a boat to go unnoticed!
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They don't carry PLBs or Hand Held VHFs do they
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fairly sure they have a hand held too on a D class - often a swimmer goes ashore.
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But is that also not my point you argumentative git...
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I suggest you refresh your memory: http://www.rib.net/forum/misc.php?do...ork&page=rules
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24 May 2016, 11:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
personally I'd rather have been a mile from shore and waited for the lift that would inevitably have been provided.
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Poly surely you can't be serious ?
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24 May 2016, 13:52
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So which one is Grant and which one is Phil?
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24 May 2016, 19:27
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No a great situation for anyone to be in. And not when it was hoax. Rnli crew used to have 2 double ended flares in the life jacket. Most will now have 1 flare and a PLB in every life jacket.
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24 May 2016, 19:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt-
And not when it was hoax.
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Was it? The news reported that the missing person was safely found ashore. That is not the same as a hoax - which is a malicious call out.
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Originally Posted by Bern
Poly surely you can't be serious ?
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I'm a lazy git. 200m swim in full kit seems like hard work to me. And depending where you are and the wind/waves etc, getting out isn't going to be trivial.
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24 May 2016, 19:57
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The report I first read said it was, but you are right most others say during search with good intent
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24 May 2016, 21:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
personally I'd rather have been a mile from shore and waited for the lift that would inevitably have been provided. Even without a mayday, no comms to CG would have raised the alarm, and of course with other assets searching on land and sea you'd need to be pretty unlucky for a fire on a boat to go unnoticed!
fairly sure they have a hand held too on a D class - often a swimmer goes ashore.
I suggest you refresh your memory: http://www.rib.net/forum/misc.php?do...ork&page=rules
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RNLI D class lifeboat
The D class lifeboat has a single 50hp outboard engine and can be righted manually by the crew after a capsize.
First introduced into the fleet in 1963, the design of the D class has continued to evolve since its introduction and the latest version (also known as the IB1-type) was introduced in 2003.
Equipment includes both fitted and hand-held VHF radio, night-vision equipment, and first aid kit including oxygen.
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