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26 November 2008, 23:59
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the great british rib rally
just heard about this, web site has just been launched, i'm looking for a way to prove i am getting younger, any one else know about this trip in June 09 ?
Where do you start with working out fuel costs etc
Just starting a discussion?
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27 November 2008, 06:48
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I take it this is the website? http://www.greatbritishribrally.co.uk/
I was initially interested untill I saw the are only allowing ribs of 7.5m and above that can go at 30kts
Well thats me counted out, in standard trim the pac 22 will only do about 27 - 28kts and its far too small to be able to cope with those big waves they might encounter
Looks good none the less, I wonder how much fuel it would take?????
Graeme
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27 November 2008, 07:41
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Bum! I've missed by 500mm.
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01 December 2008, 21:24
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Just laugh and walk away ROFL
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01 December 2008, 23:00
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Its June 2010 actuallly!
Hi
Looks to me like the event is June 2010
The program does sound a little rushed - and of course its not a race.
Lets see if there is any evolution in the program or boat minimum criteria?
Paul
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02 December 2008, 08:35
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To be fair, from what I've seen on the web site it looks like a being a great event. Anyone organising something like this has to draw the line somewhere, and it's never going to suit everyone.
Still, it's a free world, and there's nothing stopping anyone from organising their own cruise, setting up their own club, or just following the same route without actually being part of the event.
John
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02 December 2008, 12:02
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Rules
I think with events like this you need certain rules in place to make it viable, someone is going to be responsible for up to 35 boats and god knows how many people, they need to reduce the risk as much as possible to make the event both safe and a success.
As John said you can do your own one etc.
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02 December 2008, 12:19
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Originally Posted by Julian
I think with events like this you need certain rules in place to make it viable, someone is going to be responsible for up to 35 boats and god knows how many people, they need to reduce the risk as much as possible to make the event both safe and a success.
As John said you can do your own one etc.
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Fair comment. I do understand where you're coming from- it just seemed to be the opposite to some stated aims which is a tad confusing.
On a different level I'm no less guilty of being elitist anyway (note I mean elitist with tongue firmly in cheek) when I organised a Searider only run so I'm hardly in a position to criticise
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02 December 2008, 14:16
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I think its a great opportunity, relative low cost compared to the RB08, mods to boats etc the chance to tick the box on this one with the security of cruising with like minded people, its a long haul cruise, your pace, your route per leg. I am sure ribs will shadow with other similar size ribs, start each day together, looking out for each other and beer it in the eve with each other, I am hoping we wont have to do much else with each other.
So who is up for it ?????????????
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02 December 2008, 15:48
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An interesting thread. 2010 is the 20th aniversary of the first Round Scotland which a lot of people were not around for. There is a strong possibility that "us olduns" may all get together in type of ribs that started all this off to do it again. The biggest Rib back then was David Georges 7.7 Delta that looked like a battleship compared with what is around now! The main fleet was made up of 5 metre boats which had a ball.
My personal view is Ribbing has gone the wrong way in bigger may be better, and I suppose that I have to take some of the responsibility in this by building, what was at the time a big boat to go around the world.
A decent set up and prepared 5 metre Rib is more than capable of completing a round Britain and Ireland and it is a shame that the organisers are not looking at the roots of Ribbing and electing to run the 7.5 minimum rule.
It is always a risk when a manufacturer sponsors an event when another manufacturer may do better and grab the free headline PR.
Good luck to them anyway.
Alan P
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02 December 2008, 15:59
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Actually, as a member of BIBOA, I find the 7.5M rule rather frustrating. To echo Mr Priddy, we were one of three boats who went to Weymouth by sea this year on the BIBOA cruise. That may not have been a great decision with all the benefit of hindsight, but we made it, and no furry animals were harmed in the process. Many 7.5+ Scorpion owners decided not to try the sea route. We can cruise at 25k in many conditions, and would be up for the 'expedition'. I note that of the three boats which did do Weymouth this year, one was sub 6M.
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02 December 2008, 16:36
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Bum! I've missed by 500mm.
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Perhaps your RIB needs a 600mm bow pulpit.
jky
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02 December 2008, 23:21
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I look forward to taking part one way or another
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03 December 2008, 12:09
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I am confused what this thread is all about. Is this a thread on the rally it self, or about who organises it or on who can join ?
Who cares who organizes it providing it is done efficiently and professionally ? I am happy that this initiative has been taken, it sounds like a great event.
And if your boat is too small but you still want to join in, I would guess that a simple request to the organizers is enough to get a clear answer. I also understand that the event is limited to 40 boats, first come first served.
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03 December 2008, 12:16
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Originally Posted by Quickflash
Who cares who organizes it providing it is done efficiently and professionally ? I am happy that this initiative has been taken, it sounds like a great event.
And if your boat is too small but you still want to join in, I would guess that a simple request to the organizers is enough to get a clear answer. I also understand that the event is limited to 40 boats, first come first served.
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03 December 2008, 12:20
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I am confused what this thread is all about.
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I'm not surprisd you're confused. Sorry my friend, but it's one of the most annoying thing about us British.... if we see an event, organisation that does something new or different, we moan. If something doesn't suit us exactly, we moan. We expect everyone else to do everything for us, in exactly the same way that we expect everyone to speak English when we're abroad. IKB used to stand for Isambard Kingdom Brunel, but it's now I Know Best, and everyone thinks they do.
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03 December 2008, 12:32
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Isambard.....
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03 December 2008, 18:46
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Perhaps "the great british rib rally" should be "the great british big rib rally" just to save any confusion.
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03 December 2008, 22:17
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Back on the topic(ish) of the GBRR..... I can see the benefit in the 7.5m rule in terms of keeping average speeds up (like it or not bigger boats can sustain higher cruising speeds more readily than smaller ones) to get round in the timeframe. The counter argument of course is that RB4 back in 2002 went round Britain in 10 days with 5m RIBs. We were lucky with the weather though!
I haven't read the website in detail, how much is the entry fee? It is a RIB International event after all............
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£500 - not sure what that covers but it specifically excludes marina fees and fuel. I guess the big headache/logistical cost may be organising fuel at each overnight stop? Any "surplus" will be donated to charity rather than going to RI though!
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03 December 2008, 23:02
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P.S. Simonnud - I think I'm right in saying that Scorpion don't make 6.5m RIBs any more, 7.5m is the smallest AFAIK. ;-)
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What a crying shame that is! They were phenomenal boats with the right lump on! if your buddies with Scorps new MD tell him to start knocking some out It's time the Ospreys had some competition.
Other than that I find myself in total agreement with AP's comments and I also wish you safe and happy passage on the event.
Now if only Avon would sponsor an RB5 event
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