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24 December 2018, 18:16
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Country: UK - England
Town: Stoke-on-Trent
Boat name: Delta tango
Make: Halmatic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki DF300
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 30
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Thinking of swapping my delta
Currently own a 5.5m delta powered by a 115opti.
Seriously considering selling and getting something else, but i have no idea what ?
What would you choose and why ?
6-6.5m
What would my delta even be worth ?
Engine is 2006 with 300hours
Rollercoaster trailer with new brakes and bearings along with spares
Hydraulic steering
Under console 81l alloy tank that gives you 150 mile range at 34mph cruise
Not worked out the range at top speed which is 51mph via gps
Seating for 5
All new led lights, vhf, chartplotter ect
Help 🤦🤦
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24 December 2018, 18:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,767
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Surely the what to get...
... depends on why you want to swap? Sounds like you want bigger...but why?
Is the hull /tubes also a 2006?
Is it all in good nick?
There is a basic rule of depreciation on here is it..
Take the VAT off as soon as you leave the forecourt
The 20% year 1 and 10% each year after...
Don't know what it cost new... £25k?
So became £20k as you drove away with it
£16 k end of year 1..
£14.6k end of year 2...
£13.2k end of year 3...
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£5k year 12...
But I may be being harsh
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24 December 2018, 19:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Stoke-on-Trent
Boat name: Delta tango
Make: Halmatic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki DF300
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 30
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The honest answer is i honestly don’t know.
Fantastic boat but i find myself going on longer and longer trips.
200mile plus now .....
You don’t need to tell me about depreciation, i worked at a mercury dealership for 14 years
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24 December 2018, 20:46
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
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IMO, if you're moving up for comfort and range then you should try for 6.8-7+m. Running 200 mile trips already puts you "up there" and the bigger LOA is what makes the difference. Unless you're considering huge trips and have an unlimited budget, I'd suggest looking for a 6.8m boat with a decent four stroke motor, paired with good tank capacity. You can work on the rest of the boat later.
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25 December 2018, 00:15
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Boat name: Crusader
Make: Redbay 8.4 Exped
Length: 8m +
Engine: yamaha sterndrive
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 755
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I'd say around 7k without seeing it.
We had a delta dash 5.5 with a Merc 90 4 stroke and honestly its probably the best sea boat under 7m
I think the only thing to replace it would be a bigger delta if sticking with an outboard.
Not many boats give you that delta solidity on the water
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25 December 2018, 00:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Stoke-on-Trent
Boat name: Delta tango
Make: Halmatic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki DF300
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 30
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I really love the delta and i’m probably mental for thinking about swapping. i completely gutted it to bare deck and did a full re fit in the spring, everything brand new right down to battery terminals.
This was when i made the new bigger tank ect and fitted it out for long distance trips, safety boat duties and for teaching rya courses.
I find myself looking at the halmatic ribs and would probably go for an arctic 24 if anything, completely gut to bare hull and re fit it out again.
Just really value other people’s opinion’s despite being in the marine trade for way too long myself.
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25 December 2018, 21:13
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,645
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Do you really want to swap? Delta RIB is just dandy. 5.5m is great to launch and retrieve yourself. More power, maybe something under cover (give me a cuddly housing, windscreen wiper and a pot of tea on the gas any day). Give us a clue in terms of budget, otherwise I'll be throwing in Fabarge eggs!
Halmatic Pacific and Arctic... you're into the HGVs of RIBs. Cheaper owning a racehorse!
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26 December 2018, 00:20
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,645
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus
(give me a cuddly housing...
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Just to set the record straight, that should be cuddy housing. One of the dangers of drinking Champagne and then being let loose on RIBnet!
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26 December 2018, 14:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Stoke-on-Trent
Boat name: Delta tango
Make: Halmatic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki DF300
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 30
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Been there and done that with wheelhouse boats, way to boring
I have no budget as such, but i really do fancy a 22, converting it to outboard and run twin 150 opti’s or e tecs.
Size and weight doesn't matter to be fair, i very rarely go out on my own or without a group of us
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26 December 2018, 22:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,767
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If you are going to use it for PB2 teaching - do you want a big boat to teach?
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26 December 2018, 22:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Stoke-on-Trent
Boat name: Delta tango
Make: Halmatic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki DF300
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 30
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I do very little these days, and it’s usually pwc when it is.
Looking for my own personal needs now instead of practicality
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26 December 2018, 22:33
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,985
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26 December 2018, 22:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Stoke-on-Trent
Boat name: Delta tango
Make: Halmatic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki DF300
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 30
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Quote:
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I’ve been waiting for someone to say that
Has anyone had any real world experience at the helm of both ?
I’ve only used a 5.5
But used all sorts of other boats from ribtec’s, humbers to 9.5m cobra’s
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27 December 2018, 08:42
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Denny
Boat name: Highland Bluewater
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,647
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I've got absolutely no complaints with the ride in my 6.5m Coastline and it's been to virtually every island on the West coast of Scotland and over to Ireland a couple of times.
No inclination for anything bigger.
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27 December 2018, 10:56
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,985
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I've got a 7.4m inboard delta and it feels like a brick shithouse and pretty sure I'd give up before the boat did and not as much of a slug as I expected with only a 240 diesel. I'd imagine that 650 would be quite lively but very solid
Not driven a 5.5 so cant help with a comparison
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27 December 2018, 20:39
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,645
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Just throwing this out there. Go from a Delta... to a Delta. Got project written all over it, plus you get two Yammie 75s thrown in for good measure!
https://www.findafishingboat.com/delta/ad-99206
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29 December 2018, 21:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Crewe
Boat name: Orion
Make: Humber Attaque
Length: 5m +
Engine: Evinrude ETEC 90
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeltaTango
Currently own a 5.5m delta powered by a 115opti.
Seriously considering selling and getting something else, but i have no idea what ?
What would you choose and why ?
6-6.5m
What would my delta even be worth ?
Engine is 2006 with 300hours
Rollercoaster trailer with new brakes and bearings along with spares
Hydraulic steering
Under console 81l alloy tank that gives you 150 mile range at 34mph cruise
Not worked out the range at top speed which is 51mph via gps
Seating for 5
All new led lights, vhf, chartplotter ect
Help 🤦🤦
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Well if you are thinking of selling I've just sold my Quicksilver pilothouse 640 and want to go back to a RIB as I am usually on my own. I'm just down the road in Crewe.
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