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22 August 2012, 16:29
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
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Width wise from memory they are all around the 2m-ish mark , so if an SR4 goes through your door, so shoud a 4.7 and a 5.4.
Whether the garage is long enough to allow you to shut the door behind it is another matter! Have a search for garages and fit - there have been a couple of discussions on the matter.
Just remember that if your trailer is braked you may need to either take a good extra space into account or get creative wit hthe drawbar & wich like I had to do. Suffice to say my tailgate on the car will only open & clear the bow if the trailer brakes are not on.... But it fits & the door closes (just!)
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22 August 2012, 16:49
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Herne Bay
Boat name: Red May
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp Honda 4 Stroke
MMSI: Is quite long
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Originally Posted by 9D280
Width wise from memory they are all around the 2m-ish mark , so if an SR4 goes through your door, so shoud a 4.7 and a 5.4.
Whether the garage is long enough to allow you to shut the door behind it is another matter! Have a search for garages and fit - there have been a couple of discussions on the matter.
Just remember that if your trailer is braked you may need to either take a good extra space into account or get creative wit hthe drawbar & wich like I had to do. Suffice to say my tailgate on the car will only open & clear the bow if the trailer brakes are not on.... But it fits & the door closes (just!)
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Thanks for that advice. I have found the width on the Avon website at 2.03m and i have the smallest gap at 2.10 by the door so it will go. Height wise no issue with the a frame removed. Length wise i have 5.2m but of course need to take into account the up and over door. I was thinking that maybe just maybe i could shorten the draw bar or remove a small section at the rear and pop it through. Main concern really is life on tubes etc and am i going to get a few more years yet. It will certainly be the biggest rib i can go for.
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22 August 2012, 17:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Originally Posted by actions
maybe i could shorten the draw bar
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That was done to my RC5.3's trailer to enable it to fit in the garage. So it can be done.
'Trailer Guy' on here may be able to advise
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22 August 2012, 18:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
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My 4.7SR on trailer was 5.10m total. One day I will buy a 4m SR with 40hp 2 stroke I'm sure - I love our SIB and the ease of carrying/launching off the boat but *any* sort of sea other than a mill pond and they slap you about like crazy + they all go sideways like a hovercraft with any sort of turn at speed. SIBs are great fun but compared to the sea handling of a decent RIB they are very poor.
I just need to wait for my (9 yr old) son to grow for a few years when we can manage a 4m RIB together and I'll be there.
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22 August 2012, 18:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Herne Bay
Boat name: Red May
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp Honda 4 Stroke
MMSI: Is quite long
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Am seriously looking at getting whispers rib and hoping to trial it next week. Any thought on how long tubes last. Its a 1991 rib and powered by a 40 2 stroke. Would this be a good move do you think, only my set up is all much newer??????? Oh decisions decisions...
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22 August 2012, 19:22
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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If its his 4m( I thought he sold it). Its in great condition. Tubes good for another 15 years with care...
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22 August 2012, 19:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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There are some pics inhere if it is the one I think it is....just need to find them.
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22 August 2012, 20:43
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Country: Ireland
Make: Zodiac Mk I
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 hp Yam two stroke
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 728
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Tubes should last for years to come,they where wizards at llanelli back in the day
Big difference between the 4 and 4.7 in many ways
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22 August 2012, 20:50
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Country: UK - England
Town: Herne Bay
Boat name: Red May
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp Honda 4 Stroke
MMSI: Is quite long
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by Boatnomad
Tubes should last for years to come,they where wizards at llanelli back in the day
Big difference between the 4 and 4.7 in many ways
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Excellent news on the tubes, thanks for that. 4.7 is the way forward.
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Originally Posted by PeterM
There are some pics inhere if it is the one I think it is....just need to find them.
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I think if i remember our telephone conversation correctly he sold his orange sr4.7 a while ago and now has his ribcraft and the one i'm looking at. He has just rigged it with a 40hp two stroke yam to sell as a package.
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22 August 2012, 22:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,551
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Originally Posted by actions
Excellent news on the tubes, thanks for that. 4.7 is the way forward.
I think if i remember our telephone conversation correctly he sold his orange sr4.7 a while ago and now has his ribcraft and the one i'm looking at. He has just rigged it with a 40hp two stroke yam to sell as a package.
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Ah OK - sorry - I confused things . Where is he when you need him . I reckon he has had ;
SR4 with a 40 Yam
SR4.7 with a suzi that Trevor bought ( and took across to the CI recently )
SR4.7 with a 70 (?) yam that he still has ?
The grey SR4.7 that he must have put a 40 on .
I think that makes him a bit if SR4.7 fan ?
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22 August 2012, 22:25
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Stotfold
Boat name: kimozo 2
Make: Ribtec
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 115 efi 4 st
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 228
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searider sr
Hi the way i get my boat (not a searider )to fit in garage is to move snubber post forwards on trailer as far as poss, then winch boat forward up to post again , i have a roller trailer, this shortens overhaul lenght of trailer /boat set up , have to put back befor use but only takes about 10mins.
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22 August 2012, 22:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Herne Bay
Boat name: Red May
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp Honda 4 Stroke
MMSI: Is quite long
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Originally Posted by PeterM
Ah OK - sorry - I confused things . Where is he when you need him . I reckon he has had ;
SR4 with a 40 Yam
SR4.7 with a suzi that Trevor bought ( and took across to the CI recently )
SR4.7 with a 70 (?) yam that he still has ?
The grey SR4.7 that he must have put a 40 on .
I think that makes him a bit if SR4.7 fan ?
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I think so, but proves they must be a good rib or that he has a fetish.....
When i spoke to him earlier he stated it should reach 27 knts, which is what i get out of my Zodiac 2 up.
Providing its got enough power to be good fun and not be sluggish it should be perfect for me.
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23 August 2012, 09:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,069
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Avon tubes I believe have/had a 10 year guarantee.
I had a 1978 SR5.4 and the tubes were fine when I sold it in 2005.
I think it spent most of its early life inside out of the sun which helped but 2000 to 2005 was outside without a cover.
Current SR4 is a 1997 I think and lived in a container until 2006 and then on a mooring with no cover - all ok still.
So, if the tubes look ok now and you'll be keeping it in a garage they'll be fine for a long while.
But - my 1998 scorpion tubes are near the end of their life having been outside most of their life.
You can't beat the older avon fabric :-)
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23 August 2012, 10:07
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Bangor,Co Down
Make: Gemini/ Avon
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 166
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I have a 1977 one and the the tubes are fine...as long as you don't mind the boat not looking sexy. I have a pre 1972 Redcrest that also lives outside and the hypalon on it is fine too. Keeping it under cover in a garage is a good idea. Do that and it will last a very long time.
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23 August 2012, 19:26
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Country: UK - England
Town: Herne Bay
Boat name: Red May
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp Honda 4 Stroke
MMSI: Is quite long
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Well following all of Whispers help and advice and the members on here i have decided to go for it. Provisionaly sold pending confirmation i can actually get it in the garage, but i think that should be ok with a little tinkering.
Now for an engine.
Then to sell mine.
Hopefully i'm doing the right thing
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23 August 2012, 19:34
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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Welcome to the SR4.7 club
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Originally Posted by actions
Now for an engine.
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What do you have in mind?
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23 August 2012, 19:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Herne Bay
Boat name: Red May
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp Honda 4 Stroke
MMSI: Is quite long
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Ideally a four stroke , (i know that could be frowned upon with a searider by some posts ive researched) but i have to consider fuel consumption.
Something around the 60 mark, PTT, Electric start.
Even a 50 if it will push it enough.
Tried local marine stores but they dont have anything at moment.
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23 August 2012, 20:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,493
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I had a 60 hp Mercury 4 stroke on mine and it was OK but more would have been better - spoke to our local rescue boat guys at the weekend who run a 70 2 stroke Yam on their 4.7 four up and it flies big time.
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23 August 2012, 20:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Herne Bay
Boat name: Red May
Make: Zodiac
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp Honda 4 Stroke
MMSI: Is quite long
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 653
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Originally Posted by Max...
I had a 60 4 Mercury stroke on mine and it was OK but more would have been better - spoke to our local rescue boat guys at the weekend who run a 70 2 stroke Yam on theirs and it flies big time.
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Hmmm when you say ok, how ok?
I know the 70 would be better but i really have to think of running costs.
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23 August 2012, 20:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Boat name: Bombard
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mercury Mariner 15hp
Join Date: Jul 2010
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I guess it's all relative and other SR owners will be much better qualified to answer that but I really think a 2 stroke 60 would be the desirable minimum.
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