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20 August 2007, 17:54
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Throttle Practice and relative perofrmance
When it is calm and safe, do people run at speed - 25+k with one hand on the throttle, or do they run with both hands on the wheel (or even one hand on the wheel) leaving the throttle in a fixed position??
And would you expect a yam 4 stroke 150 on a 6.5m Ballistic with three adults to run slower than a solent with six up with a 150 opti?
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20 August 2007, 18:07
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one hand on the throttle for me.
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20 August 2007, 18:12
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Its never Calm and safe on a RIB at that kind of speed or greater, people that think that will run into trouble at some point in their boating life.
So, hand on throttle for me every time.
As for Ballistics and Solents of the same size and power output.....I would have thought you already know the answer Bruce. Solents are based on the Tohatsu design of hulls and as we all know are one of the quickest hull designs about in Calm or Moderate conditions, however when things get seriously bad I would have thought the Ballistic would have an edge.
However I have never had experience of the Ballistics, just based on info I have read, pictures and RIBs I have seen.
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20 August 2007, 18:19
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One hand on the wheel and one holding a beer for me
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20 August 2007, 19:12
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No hard and fast rule for me. When its bumpy, I sometimes feel more in control with both hands on the wheel.
This goes against my instincts but it just feels more natural.
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20 August 2007, 20:01
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I tend to agree with Andy. WHile all recommendations are 1 hand on the throttle in some of the conditions around here sometimes 2 on the wheel feel correct.
Having said that it is never at WOT and often while "jogging" along at circa 10 knots.
Just my tuppence worth.
Ian
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20 August 2007, 20:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brucehawsker
When it is calm and safe, do people run at speed - 25+k with one hand on the throttle, or do they run with both hands on the wheel (or even one hand on the wheel) leaving the throttle in a fixed position???
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One hand on the throttle always.
If I need a hand for playing with the GPS etc it will come from the wheel.
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20 August 2007, 20:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkWildey
One hand on the wheel and one holding a beer for me
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Mark, you've posted in the wrong thread!
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20 August 2007, 21:04
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always one hand on wheel and one on the throttles as was drilled into me when i became a PBI
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20 August 2007, 21:04
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Varies for me too.. my gear is DTS (Digital Throttle and Shift)and very sensitive, and I've had to learn to grip it very slackly, a firm grip on this throttle in rough unstable conditions could land you in a lot of bother, as the 4 stroke motor powers up instantly, and the throttle has almost no resistance, bar the centre detent for neutral. Strange given my last 2 engines were standard gear mercury shifts & 2 strokes, and much stiffer, and I was almost always hands on then, unless trimmed to perfection on a calm sea, when both hands were on the wheel.
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20 August 2007, 21:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hurricane
always one hand on wheel and one on the throttles as was drilled into me when i became a PBI
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A bit like being taught not to cross ones arms when learning to drive. Its sound advice but....
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20 August 2007, 22:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJL
One hand on the throttle always.
If I need a hand for playing with the GPS etc it will come from the wheel.
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I assume you've got steering that stays straight when you do that then? Mine will torque steer to starboard if I do that.
Holding my throttle at cruising speeds rapidly becomes uncomfortable due to the searider console design so I vary between both on the wheel and one on the throttle. However, my left hand is ALWAYS next to the throttle when it's on the wheel.
Anything above 25 knots and my hand stays on the throttle.
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20 August 2007, 22:20
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Interesting that not one of your replies mentions having a kill cord attached, which is ten times more likely to save your life, than kidding yourself that having your hand 'near' the throttle will help when, in the usual way, your trusty steed ejects you.
I thought you lot were safety concious!...feckin ametures!
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20 August 2007, 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller
Interesting that not one of your replies mentions having a kill cord attached, which is ten times more likely to save your life, than kidding yourself that having your hand 'near' the throttle will help when, in the usual way, your trusty steed ejects you.
I thought you lot were safety concious!...feckin ametures!
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That'd be because the thread isn't about kill cords.
I'm not kidding myself-I know my hand should be on the throttle all the time but I have to lean forward and to the left to make it possible. I really should move the remotes to make it possible without it being a hindrance.
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20 August 2007, 22:36
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One hand on the throttle, and one on the wheel, as taught in the BSAC boat handling course and practiced for years so that anything else feels wrong
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20 August 2007, 22:37
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And yes, the kill cord is always used
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20 August 2007, 23:15
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After attaching my kill cord (Mr Fuller) I drive with my Right hand on the wheel and my left hand gripping around the upright part of the lever rather than the usual handle at the top.
I find this gives me much finer control, especially when bouncing about a bit.
Nasher.
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20 August 2007, 23:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller
Interesting that not one of your replies mentions having a kill cord attached,
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I think that goes pretty much as standard that many do
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller
feckin ametures!
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depends where your coming from, but learning to spell is a good start
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21 August 2007, 00:00
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I might well try an arrangement of a stainless leaning hoop that follows the conture of the throttle lever in forward gear only. This might enable me to have greater control of the throttle in rough conditions and somewhere stiffer to hold/rest onto at the same time keeping my hand close to where it needs to be.
Just a thought!
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21 August 2007, 00:02
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Quote:
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