tobermory accident

[JSP]

Originally Posted by Stoo

Being a contributor to a number of diving-related forums, where fatalities are often reported, it is common practise to refrain from debating the details of the accident in a public forum out of respect for the family of the deceased. This is especially true when the circumstances are largely unknown.

Once all of the facts are in, there will be time to discuss and debate ad nauseum...

Just my $0.02 worth!

I'm with Stoo.

[BassBoy]

Me too.

P.S. JK, could you add another field to members profile indicating whether they are in favour of wearing a PFD or not?

This will help us all decide how soon, some on here, are likely to fall victim to natural selection! Could be useful info if you are trying to buddy up with someone on a cruise etc

[jambo]

And me!
J

[bedajim]

Originally Posted by GandyGoose

Thread drift here, but on the subject of dry suits, has anyone been in that situation first hand - with air holding your feet above the water? How did you recover? I remember the horror stories when dry suits were first coming in, and speculation about releasing air from the ankle seals to recover, but that was all hearsay not first hand experience or serious advice. (Mine has full socks in any case)

Do a dry suit course they'll teach you , I always used ankle weights when diving too, may not be of much help if upside down but they did help with buoyancy control, position in the water

[bootneck81]

To re invert in a Dry suit bend forward at the waist and do a forward roll, the air then comes into the top of the suit. But that's by the by, my condolences to the family, a needless accident.

[DonMacN]

suitably chastened. Based on common enough occurences on the west coast and elsewhere I probably was jumping to conclusions. Not wholly justified on the basis of the PnJ article.

[jyasaki]

Originally Posted by GandyGoose

Thread drift here, but on the subject of dry suits, has anyone been in that situation first hand - with air holding your feet above the water? How did you recover? I remember the horror stories when dry suits were first coming in, and speculation about releasing air from the ankle seals to recover, but that was all hearsay not first hand experience or serious advice. (Mine has full socks in any case)

Tuck into a ball, scull with hands, until head up, then straighten out. Air will go to highest point; in this case, shoulders.

jky

[m chappelow]

a lot depends on the type of dry suit ie membrain or closed cell and a lot on how it fits in the first place ie off the peg or custom fit or if it it a surface suit or a diving one and how it seals on the feet, boots ,soft socks or seals .worst type is the too baggy around the legs,

[chewy]

Originally Posted by m chappelow

a lot depends on the type of dry suit ie membrain or closed cell and a lot on how it fits in the first place ie off the peg or custom fit or if it it a surface suit or a diving one and how it seals on the feet, boots ,soft socks or seals .worst type is the too baggy around the legs,

Sad I know but is that photo taken at the South Gare?

[m chappelow]

yes chewy was about 14 years ago when we were removing and replacing the concreate slip,

[Heart-trouble]

terrible accident, but i would have thought this accident would spark a helmet debate, not a lifejacket/drysuit debate

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I would have to be wearing an automatic jacket, which is unlikely to survive its first trip, as I am bound to jump in the water to help recover the boat at the slip and set the thing off!

why would you get in the water at the slip? there is no need to!

maybe this should be a new thread as it's gone a bit off topic.

[BruceB]

Originally Posted by Heart-trouble

why would you get in the water at the slip? there is no need to!

Course you need to in a lot of cases unless there a nearby pontoon or pier. On most of the slips I operate from there is a just a slip on the beach and the only way onshore is by waders, drysuit or dinghy

[cyberstoker]

Originally Posted by Heart-trouble

terrible accident, but i would have thought this accident would spark a helmet debate, not a lifejacket/drysuit debate

I would have thought a navigation debate, as it seems that hitting rocks was the cause of the problem.

[Heart-trouble]

Originally Posted by cyberstoker

I would have thought a navigation debate, as it seems that hitting rocks was the cause of the problem.

yes that too

[m chappelow]

Originally Posted by BruceB

Course you need to in a lot of cases unless there a nearby pontoon or pier. On most of the slips I operate from there is a just a slip on the beach and the only way onshore is by waders, drysuit or dinghy

i know of 2 people in seperate incidents that drowned whilst recovering boats wearing waders and no lifejacket

[BruceB]

and?

[Poly]

A bit of thread resurrection - but the judge ruled today that there was insufficient evidence:

BBC News - 'Boat homicide' charge dismissed over Garry Henaghan's death