Torquay Races

Adam Younger · 17 September 2006, 08:44

On behalf of ORDA I would like to let you all know about the National finals at Torquay - going to be a fantastic event with 3C, V24, OCR and Ski-Racing. Hopefully RIB racing as well, but waiting to see if boats are back from Egypt in time!

Also we are going to run a basic race - where pretty much anyone can enter. Got to meet basic rules and be a member of a club - ORDA membership even better! A great chance to show what a RIB can do ....

Anyway the event is from 28th September to the 1st October.

Adam Younger · 18 September 2006, 12:19

Following is a shortened version of the program for 'finals' - giving the main items of interest.

Thursday 28 September 2006
14.00 hrs Signing in/race administration opens at RTYC

Friday 29 September 2006
10.00 hrs Launching begins
12.30 hrs V 24 National Race 1
14.00 hrs Class III C National Race 1
16.00 hrs Champagne on Haldon Pier all Classes

Saturday 30 September 2006
08.00 hrs OCR/ Ski Racers to launch
11.30 hrs OCR National Race 1 (25 mins)
12.30 hrs Ski Racers ( Support Race)
14.00 hrs OCR National Race 2 (25 mins)
14.45 hrs National Rib F1 and European Ribs Race 1
16.00 hrs Champagne on Haldon Pier all Classes
17.00 hrs Launch and Recovery closes
19.00 hrs Hog Roast Dinner Imperial Hotel

Sunday 1 October 2006
07.30 hrs All Classes commence launching
09.30 hrs OCR National Race 3 (55 mins)
10.45 hrs European Ribs Race 2
12.00 hrs Class III C, Rib F1, V 24 National Race 2
13.15 hrs Ski Race – all classes
14.30 hrs Basic Race - all Classes
16.00 hrs Champagne and Laurels Haldon Pier All Classes
17.00 hrs Prize Giving RTYC

Cookee · 26 September 2006, 15:52

No RIB racing I'm afraid - following on from our discussion at the boat show - the boats definitrely will not be back from Egypt in time despite continued promises they would be back for the 27th - as a result of this I am now unable to defend my British Championship this year and presumably there will be no champion this year?

I also feel sorry for ORDA who will have to do without the entry fees for the championship boats as well as the European boats that were meant to be coming over to race against us!

I have been very kindly offered a Thundercat to race in Portugal instead, so I'm off to sunnier climes - Kitten will be in Torquay with the leisure boat!

Adam Younger · 26 September 2006, 20:35

Big shame - and I'm afraid that there has to be big questions about how benefitual the Egypt event was for British powerboating.

As a club (ORDA) we have lost entries and a class at Torquay, possibly the same at Littlehampton before the event and Cowes also lost the RIBs. Now the championship for RIBs is de-valued or whatever???

Have fun in Portugal

Adam

Manos · 26 September 2006, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Younger

Big shame - and I'm afraid that there has to be big questions about how benefitual the Egypt event was for British powerboating

Meaning?
A lot of people who have read this new thread have told me that they would be interested to hear your views.

John Kennett · 26 September 2006, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manos

Meaning?
A lot of people who have read this new thread have told me that they would be interested to hear your views.

I guess what Adam means is something along the lines of "As a club (ORDA) we have lost entries and a class at Torquay, possibly the same at Littlehampton before the event and Cowes also lost the RIBs. Now the championship for RIBs is de-valued or whatever???"" but I'm sure he'll correct me if I have misunderstood!

John

Manos · 26 September 2006, 22:48

We hope that Adam expalins ....

Gav · 26 September 2006, 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manos

We hope that Adam expalins ....

are you a racer then manos?

Manos · 27 September 2006, 07:32

Should I be?

Adam Younger · 27 September 2006, 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manos

We hope that Adam expalins ....

As per my post - nothing against the event at all - but I believe it has had a negative effect on RIB racing (which was already struggling in numbers) in this country.

This is certainly backed up by lack of RIB entries at two of my clubs events and as chairman of that club I have to speak my opinion for the good of that club. The Egypt event was heavily promoted by our RYA but I don't think it was completely thought through re. timings and impact on the British clubs.

Again nothing against the event or the racing that occured at that event.

Adam

Manos · 27 September 2006, 08:33

Adam thank you for the reply
I am sure that the organisers will see your post and I believe that, from the little I know, next year the RED SEA RIB RALLY event will not 'compromise' or 'interfere' with other power boating events in this or indeed in other European country.

I am sure that shortly some dates will come forward for the next year RIB races in the Red Sea.

Thanks again
Manos

Cookee · 27 September 2006, 10:14

Adam you are not the only person from the club with these views - however I don't think it had any bearing on the championship other that the late arrival of the boats from Egypt.

1 There were only 3 boats entered this year - some crews went on to other classes such as V24 and P1 and 1 boat lost his navigator and had work commitments, Egypt had nothing to do with the lack of numbers at all - I know the crews involved!

2 Littlehampton had no RIBs because 1 boat had injured crew and another had other problems leaving me the option of driving from Devon to race myself for 40 points.

3 Cowes didn't have any RIBs because of Egypt, but Class III International races clash with UK races and I havn't heard of anyone complaining that it is ruining the class.

Although I have issues and a big repair bill as a result of the trip I believe that the Egyptians did the best they could and need better help from European experienced racers and organisers to make the event as good as it can be be next year.

Manos · 27 September 2006, 10:33

@ Cookee

Adam Younger · 28 September 2006, 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookee

Adam you are not the only person from the club with these views - however I don't think it had any bearing on the championship other that the late arrival of the boats from Egypt.

You've missed the point to some extent - RIB racing in this country was obviously in trouble whatever happened with the Egypt event.

However from an organisers point of view - we make plans for races including a RIB race at Torquay. This will now not happen which looses us revenue and also is not good news when we go back to the local departments and inform them that we have lost one of classes. As you know this was only confirmed very late on.

As for the UK RIB championships I think that the RYA could have put more of their efforts into promoting it - and perhaps saving RIB racing. Whereas now it would appear to be on the point of no longer continuing?

Manos · 28 September 2006, 12:52

No need to worry about next RIB races as I have it from good sources that the 2007 RED SEA RIB RALLY will take place at the end (around the 28th) of October

I have a few more details but must wait until they become public by the RYA who is one of those organisations that promote this (IMHO) super event.

TQBoater · 01 October 2006, 00:11

Shame there was no racing today (Sat) as the wind was whipping things up
Just a few pictures from the pits

www.torbay-photos.co.uk

Fingers crossed for tomorrow