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10 April 2014, 21:12
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Boat name: patches & blue bird
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Towing
how would a 1.9 vw t5 transporter (104hp) swb, cope with towing and launching a 6mtr rib on a four wheel trailer with twin 75 2 strokers on it, boat,trailer,fuel about 2 ton....all pro's and cons welcome...cheers in advance...
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10 April 2014, 21:21
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Depends on your slip way ofcourse
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10 April 2014, 21:34
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Great vans had 2 in the past but rubbish on anything wet and slippy
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10 April 2014, 21:57
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I'd check what the van can tow legally, has to be over borderline I'd say
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10 April 2014, 22:14
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Originally Posted by fatboyrib
how would a 1.9 vw t5 transporter (104hp) swb, cope with towing and launching a 6mtr rib on a four wheel trailer with twin 75 2 strokers on it, boat,trailer,fuel about 2 ton....all pro's and cons welcome...cheers in advance...
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Depending on which variant you have (T28, 30, 32 etc) the max towing weight varies between 2200kg & 2500kg. Are you sure it's a 104hp? As T5s come in 102, 114, 140 & 180ps. You could be on the edge of your limits depending on what else is loaded in the van. It's a fairly hefty load for only 104(2) ponies & you could be asking a lot. Folks get hung up on how the engine will cope & forget about when it comes to stopping.
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11 April 2014, 20:02
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Depending on which variant you have (T28, 30, 32 etc) the max towing weight varies between 2200kg & 2500kg. Are you sure it's a 104hp? As T5s come in 102, 114, 140 & 180ps. You could be on the edge of your limits depending on what else is loaded in the van. It's a fairly hefty load for only 104(2) ponies & you could be asking a lot. Folks get hung up on how the engine will cope & forget about when it comes to stopping.
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trailer is a brand new 4 wheel braked trailer, so hopefully braking not an issue... as for the t5 would a 2.5L be better, but a bit concerned about the poorer mpg when not towing and van being used as a every day work van( CAN DO 200 MILES A DAY, DEPENDING ON WHERE I AM WORKING), apparently 1.9s do about 30-35mpg and 2.5s doing less than 30 mpg....
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11 April 2014, 21:12
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Depends how much you floor it. Like any car I get better out of a 1.8 than I did from a 1.4 as the engine isn't labouring so much.
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11 April 2014, 21:14
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Research the towing capacity of the 1.9 engined van with the higher hp they are sweeter engines & bulletproof
If the 1.9 can legally tow what you need thats the one to go for.
They pull like a train anyway if it will legally tow your boat dont worry about it only being 1.9
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11 April 2014, 23:31
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I would always go for the biggest engine as its on top of its job you can't have enough horses under the bonnet
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11 April 2014, 23:58
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All the current range of T5s are 2l from the 84ps right up to the 180ps= same block. there isn't a 2.5 in the current line up.
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12 April 2014, 11:54
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Like I said the smaller engine was the best option hence vw dropping the 2.5 option
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12 April 2014, 13:48
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I tow with a 1.9 TDI 105 bhp Octavia 4x4. With 1.5 tons on the back it is fine up to about 50 mph but you've got to keep the revs up around 3000 if you want to tow at 60.
I think the 105 brake van will be find around the houses as I expect it will be geared right down but I wouldn't want to tow on the open road very far, especially with the vans aerodynamics. You can't escape the lack of bhp on long A road hills.
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12 April 2014, 17:28
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
All the current range of T5s are 2l from the 84ps right up to the 180ps= same block. there isn't a 2.5 in the current line up.
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buying a 57,58 reg one. so its either the 1.9 or 2.5...
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12 April 2014, 17:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fatboyrib
buying a 57,58 reg one. so its either the 1.9 or 2.5...
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Ahh! go for the 2.5 then
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13 April 2014, 07:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fatboyrib
buying a 57,58 reg one. so its either the 1.9 or 2.5...
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Check service history water pumps are gear driven and tend to fall apart after a few K rear springs are weak as well if load carrying and oil needs changing more than VW recommend
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13 April 2014, 11:23
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Originally Posted by mick
Check service history water pumps are gear driven and tend to fall apart after a few K rear springs are weak as well if load carrying and oil needs changing more than VW recommend
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You're not filling me with confidence, I've got a T32/180ps on order
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13 April 2014, 12:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mick
Check service history water pumps are gear driven and tend to fall apart after a few K rear springs are weak as well if load carrying and oil needs changing more than VW recommend
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that's the 2.5 engine that has the waterpump problem the big hp 1.9 & 2.0 engines are bulletproof
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13 April 2014, 13:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
that's the 2.5 engine that has the waterpump problem the big hp 1.9 & 2.0 engines are bulletproof
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Phew!
Scent from my iBone sow iguana any typos whore bed spillings
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21 April 2014, 23:42
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Phew!
Scent from my iBone sow iguana any typos whore bed spillings
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You bought one Dave where from ??
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22 April 2014, 10:23
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Quote:
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You bought one Dave where from ??
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It's on order from VW dealer, still waiting for Hermans Muppets to pull their fingers out & build the thing. Should've been delivered last week, they haven't started building it yet & the VAT quarter end is galloping up
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