Towing a pac 22

[PeterR]

I want to buy a second hand car diesel estate for long distance economy and hopefully to tow a 2 ton plus boat what choice do i have if any bearing in mind the weight of the boat .Please help so i dont buy the wrong car.Thanks

[Pete7]

My disco auto does 25 mpg towing a P22. The boat is 1600 kgs empty, add fuel and kit and its going to be 2T plus probably 700 kgs for a decent trailer, you will need a big 4x4 I think especially on the slipway.

Pete

[Slaphead]

Peter,
The dry weight of a P22 on a trailer is about 2600-2700kg depending on your trailer. Don't buy an estate car, you'll need a medium to large 4x4. I towed mine originally with a 1985 Landcruiser FJ60 series with a 4l non turbo diesel and you knew you were towing a heavy boat. I later had a 1994 Landcruiser VX 4.2 TD which pulled it really well... shite fuel consumption I have to say. The chap who bought it off me initially towed it with a Subaru 4x4 estate car but very soon afterwards bought a new Nissan Navara - type 4x4. Choose carefully because you are stuck with a fuel guzzler when you aren't towing. Hope that helps

[Mollers]

If it grosses at 2600-2700kg you're in big 4x4 territory. An X5 will only tow 2300kg legally.

[Rogue Wave]

i'd go for a heavy vehicle, Surf Disco Landie Trooper You can pick Surf's up for very keen prices They are great trucks but the 3.0l is thirsty. If you must have a car then it's got to have some weight in it and power So Merc estate Jag and the balance of the trailer needs to be much better. I'd also suggest your unlikely to get away with anything less than great trailer brakes with a car.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

i'd go for a heavy vehicle, Surf Disco Landie Trooper You can pick Surf's up for very keen prices They are great trucks but the 3.0l is thirsty. If you must have a car then it's got to have some weight in it and power So Merc estate Jag and the balance of the trailer needs to be much better. I'd also suggest your unlikely to get away with anything less than great trailer brakes with a car.

I reckon that trying to pull that much weight up a slip with a car would be close to impossible unless the slip is in pristine nick.

[Rogue Wave]

I did recomend a 4x4

However I used to recover a Camel with a Primera I used a long rope so I was on the good stuff but it was a lot better when I got the trooper

[Downhilldai]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

... I used to recover a Camel with a Primera I used a long rope ....

Didn't know you were a vet

[PeterR]

I had realised that no car would be any good on a slip way unless 4x4.i had thought that if planned properly i could arrange it to be put in anywhere i went for a charge .and if local i could use the 4x4 i have .L reg frontera done 65,000 miles 2.3 td.I have thought to change the camper and buy 2.8 td renault master or sprinter and convert to a camper and use that to tow with.But had hoped a deisel estate may have also managed it

[The Garfish]

Originally Posted by PeterR

.Please help so i dont buy the wrong car.

itts nott de carr dats de problum.

yew bort de rong bote

garF

[PeterR]

Originally Posted by The Garfish

itts nott de carr dats de problum.

yew bort de rong bote

garF

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by PeterR

I had realised that no car would be any good on a slip way unless 4x4.i had thought that if planned properly i could arrange it to be put in anywhere i went for a charge .and if local i could use the 4x4 i have .L reg frontera done 65,000 miles 2.3 td.I have thought to change the camper and buy 2.8 td renault master or sprinter and convert to a camper and use that to tow with.But had hoped a deisel estate may have also managed it

You'll probably need bigger than a fronty to tow it-from memory my 2.3td had a 2500kg towing weight. It also went bang when I used it to tow-and it was only on 120,000 miles. Bloody awful old 2.3 Bedford engines from the CF vans...

Why not have a look for a Transit County if you can find one-then get that converted to a camper? It'd tick every box going. They aren't cheap though.

[Lostboy]

Always worth remembering that X5/XC90 and a fair few other 4x4s don't have low ratio boxes or clever diffs so whilst they are theoretically capable of towing that weight they are worse than useless on a slipway. This is where the Disco/Defender/Touareg/Cayenne etc come into their own.

[bedajim]

Originally Posted by Slaphead

Peter,
The dry weight of a P22 on a trailer is about 2600-2700kg depending on your trailer. Don't buy an estate car, you'll need a medium to large 4x4. I towed mine originally with a 1985 Landcruiser FJ60 series with a 4l non turbo diesel and you knew you were towing a heavy boat. I later had a 1994 Landcruiser VX 4.2 TD which pulled it really well... shite fuel consumption I have to say. The chap who bought it off me initially towed it with a Subaru 4x4 estate car but very soon afterwards bought a new Nissan Navara - type 4x4. Choose carefully because you are stuck with a fuel guzzler when you aren't towing. Hope that helps

Nissan 4 cab only tows 2600kg

I get 28 mpg normally, 22mpg with the rib and 19mpg if I get up late

I've just looked at the new Toyota 4 cab but it only tows 2250 kg and only 5 speed box

More info here
http://www.fwi.co.uk/Articles/2007/0...ota-hilux.html

James

[Simon B]

Surely he would have mentioned Landrover by now?

How about one of those Ssanyong Musso's?

[paul tilley]

ive got a diesel range rover for sale if its of any use to you anything considered in part ex