Towing Advice from MCA - oops

[Mark Halliday]

Originally Posted by Simon B

What were the events leading to it rolling?

Going by the angle of dangle of the o/s rear, it looks like the trailing arm has come adrift. The later "thin" trailing arms are prone to bending, even reversing hard over a curb will do it.
I wonder if this happened before or during the acident?

[Scary Des]

The bloke in the back ground is looking up the hill, do you think they have tried to launch it one slope too soon or maybe it was a really low tide
Des

[Mark Halliday]

Nah. Des

He is just waiting for a P22 to be drop tested for comparison.

[Nick Hearne]

Originally Posted by Mark Halliday

Nah. Des

He is just waiting for a P22 to be drop tested for comparison.

Keep it coming!

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Mark Halliday

Going by the angle of dangle of the o/s rear, it looks like the trailing arm has come adrift. The later "thin" trailing arms are prone to bending, even reversing hard over a curb will do it.
I wonder if this happened before or during the acident?

What "thin" trailing arm? The rear radius arms as they should be called are still the same part number as they have always been - never managed to bend one on some serious rocks never mind curbs!!!

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by codprawn

What "thin" trailing arm? The rear radius arms as they should be called are still the same part number as they have always been - never managed to bend one on some serious rocks never mind curbs!!!

Whoops another mate of my at a different supplier has told me that yes they are now different - see I ALWAYS admit when I am wrong!!!

However he said that they have never had to replace one and they are just as strong as the old ones. It is not the sort of part that gets replaced very often - and they are a huge parts supplier!

[roohairy]

This is not the first LR the coastguard has destroyed. They reversed one off an 80 foot cliff some years ago, in the dark. For the non believers, the 2 occupants survived and the vehicle was susequently rebuilt and drives today (not by HMCG I may add!)

[roohairy]

Originally Posted by Mark Halliday

He is just waiting for a P22 to be drop tested for comparison.

Looks more like they dropped the P22 on it....

[Nick Hearne]

Originally Posted by codprawn

What "thin" trailing arm? The rear radius arms as they should be called are still the same part number as they have always been - never managed to bend one on some serious rocks never mind curbs!!!

What U 2 on about do you?
Are you talking about the Drawer bar?
Nick

[Simon B]

You lot can see all that detail from the low res shot posted?
I should have gone to specsavers.

[Jono Garton]

Originally Posted by roohairy

This is not the first LR the coastguard has destroyed. They reversed one off an 80 foot cliff some years ago, in the dark. For the non believers, the 2 occupants survived and the vehicle was susequently rebuilt and drives today (not by HMCG I may add!)

not only did they survive they walked out of it.

going back to this pic

This particular package (Halmatic 22 & 110 Special Vehcle) was £125'000 - an ambulance was actually following them.

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by Jono Garton

not only did they survive they walked out of it.

going back to this pic

This particular package (Halmatic 22 & 110 Special Vehcle) was £125'000 - an ambulance was actually following them.

Jono
This is double anorak territory on my part but that isn’t a P22. ( I really need to get a life )
Des

[Mark Halliday]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Whoops another mate of my at a different supplier has told me that yes they are now different - see I ALWAYS admit when I am wrong!!!

However he said that they have never had to replace one and they are just as strong as the old ones. It is not the sort of part that gets replaced very often - and they are a huge parts supplier!

No problem Cod.
Tell your mate from Bearmarch that most people replace them from the scrap yard with old style ones.
A mate of mine has bent one almost through 108 degrees. It actually wraped round the axel. To be fair it was fitted to a 90 with a chipped 4.8 in it, and he was on an imposible trial section. The competitive guys are now fitting front radius arms (hockey sticks) to the rear.

Nick
The trailing arms (point backwards) are the bars which attach the bottom of the rear axel to the chassis. They used to be 28mm tube and are now 15mm bar.

[Nick Hearne]

This is getting fare too geeky for me I', keeping quiet!
Nick

[Jelly]

If you look at the spray rails and the transom it looks like an arctic.
So Jono whats the full story?

The Coasties also lost one a few years ago can't remember where, but the base was asking the the Guy on the cliff what the wind speed was and he said don't know exactly but its just blown my landie off the cliff!!

Jelly

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by Jelly

If you look at the spray rails and the transom it looks like an arctic.

Jelly

Could be an artic but he tubes look like they are glues on where I thought they were screwed on
Des

[Jono]

Originally Posted by codprawn

What "thin" trailing arm? The rear radius arms as they should be called are still the same part number as they have always been - never managed to bend one on some serious rocks never mind curbs!!!

Actually, and I hate to be "picky" here, but they shouldn't be called rear radius arms either. This is a common misnomer. They should be called "Link assembly lower- rear suspension" part number NTC8328 if my memory serves me well.....

Originally Posted by codprawn

However he said that they have never had to replace one and they are just as strong as the old ones. It is not the sort of part that gets replaced very often - and they are a huge parts supplier!

Mmm.. not quite true. LR switched, in their infinite wisdom (Cost cutting ) from tubular to solid.. and they were pants! You could bend 'em in yer hand! So, as you no doubt will know, they switched back to tubular, although these are NOT identical to the earlier tubular ones.

And the winning modification here is? And I'm talking about my boys who won the Bulldog trophy this weekend! Specials class in an Ibex and this rather tasty special here. Remove top link, fit Panhard Rod and use Series two Disco FRONT radius arms...

[CJL]

Originally Posted by Jono Garton

Anyone know anything about this?

We were going to borrow an Artic off the MCA for a regatta over summer. Everything was OK'ed but we were then told the new Artics had been taken out of service cause the boat trailer package was too top heavy and the had tipped over in RTA. They had to re-design the trailers to lower the centre of gravity.

I think the photo must be the After the action shot!

Chris

[Mark Halliday]

Originally Posted by Jono

I'm talking about my boys who won the Bulldog trophy this weekend!

Congrats to them. Thats one hell of a tough event.

[Jono Garton]

Originally Posted by Scary Des

Jono
This is double anorak territory on my part but that isn’t a P22. ( I really need to get a life )
Des

didnt say it was p22.