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03 May 2007, 17:59
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Nick,
On reflection it's not the boat I had corrosion problems with, it was the trailer..I do my patio with jet washer and TFR seem to work well, also good if you've got any monoblock.
If you use it on windows, again jet washer (where it's great) keeps the wife happy too.
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Iain,
I have been using it or a derivative of it for a couple of years now. As you say its corrosive. I put a bit on, rub it in and then wash off almost immediately with water. Never had any problems that way.
Interesting about the bitumen. I don't have a tarmac drive but was considering using it on my patio through a jet washer. At the price it costs its wortha try anyway.
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03 May 2007, 18:10
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Iain,
Are you saying the TFR killed the trailer ?
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03 May 2007, 18:39
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Nick,
It could be my imagination, however I look after my gear, the trailer was in fresh water only and after two years, showed only limited signs of age.
after being sprayed with the stuff, the trailer seemed to age dramatically.
I now put another trailer in the sea and I would guess (and it obviously is one) that TFR is twice as bad as salt water. My experience of course, others may differ.
IB.
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Iain,
Are you saying the TFR killed the trailer ?
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03 May 2007, 18:55
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Iain,
I'll bear that in mind. Its worth knowing about these things.
I've just washed the stickers on the trailer down with TFR as they were all grubby. I shall make sure I don't use anymore TFR on the trailer.
In fact I'm just off to spray it down with more water.
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03 May 2007, 22:53
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It looks like TFR is often caustic based - no wonder it's deadly to a galv finish - should be fine on tubes though - may use oven cleaner after all - or alloy wheel cleaner - all much of a muchness.
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03 May 2007, 22:57
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TFR is dirt cheap.
In fact its obscenely cheap and if its harmful just think of all the bad stuff that is being washed in to drains everyday at lorry parks.
Enjoy it before it gets banned.
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03 May 2007, 23:40
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Scary; I always use tfr on my trailers. Won't any more!
When I first discovered it I cleaned my car with it through my pressure washer. It stripped a lot of the lacquer (or what ever the top layer is) on my front bumper and looked awful. Fortunately a lady in a hurry for the dentist drove into the front of me and her insurance paid for a re-spray
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03 May 2007, 23:46
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Originally Posted by Biggles
TFR is dirt cheap.
In fact its obscenely cheap and if its harmful just think of all the bad stuff that is being washed in to drains everyday at lorry parks.
Enjoy it before it gets banned.
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Nah it's actually fine - just turns into salt and water.
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03 May 2007, 23:51
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TFR destroys the surface of alloy , I have seen loads of dirt bikes ruined by it , it turns the alloy black and streaky .
I used to use it a lot for cleaning cars , but it also dulls paint badly and even after re polishing the paint will go dull again very quickly .
I suspect it has a similar effect on galvanise as it does on alloy , will turn it dull at least .
I used to wear rubber gloves and it quite quickly seemed to turn the rubber soft and slimey so not sure its that good for tubes on a regular basis .
It is an acid , but not sure what sort
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03 May 2007, 23:54
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Originally Posted by ian parkes
TFR destroys the surface of alloy , I have seen loads of dirt bikes ruined by it , it turns the alloy black and streaky .
I used to use it a lot for cleaning cars , but it also dulls paint badly and even after re polishing the paint will go dull again very quickly .
I suspect it has a similar effect on galvanise as it does on alloy , will turn it dull at least .
I used to wear rubber gloves and it quite quickly seemed to turn the rubber soft and slimey so not sure its that good for tubes on a regular basis .
It is an acid , but not sure what sort
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No it's caustic soda - alkali NaOh....
In fact here is a useful list of what Hypalon stands up to.
http://www.isolatorgloves.com/Chemic...%20Hypalon.doc
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04 May 2007, 00:07
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TFR destroys the surface of alloy , I have seen loads of dirt bikes ruined by it , it turns the alloy black and streaky .
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Yep me too, ruined my brothers exhaust on his bandit 12
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04 May 2007, 00:08
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Seems okay on Hypalon.
But metal ! Think I'll avoid using it on metal anymore.
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04 May 2007, 00:28
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Blimey there is a lot of things on that list that have a severe effect on Hypalon inc petrol , I guess you need to avoid mooring in poluted harbours for long periods .
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04 May 2007, 09:15
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Blimey there is a lot of things on that list that have a severe effect on Hypalon inc petrol
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True, but it states that it is over a 48 hour exposure period, so a short term exposure of fuel probably isn't an issue.
I love the fact that they tested hypalons expsoure to 'rum'
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05 May 2007, 10:13
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I think there's some double-talking yankee bollocks going on there.
Gasoline (high-aromatic) B-Good
Gasoline, leaded, ref. B-Good
Gasoline, unleaded A-Excellent
Petroleum D-Severe Effect
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05 May 2007, 17:37
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I think there's some double-talking yankee bollocks going on there.
Gasoline (high-aromatic) B-Good
Gasoline, leaded, ref. B-Good
Gasoline, unleaded A-Excellent
Petroleum D-Severe Effect
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Could be. But I think we put unleaded Gasoline in our tanks. I think Petroleum is not the same stuff. Outboard fuel has never caused any noticeable damage to any of my hypalon boats, and I've spilled a fair amount of it.
Perhaps it will do now I've 'read' that list.
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05 May 2007, 23:02
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For petroleum read crude oil.....
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06 May 2007, 16:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
For petroleum read crude oil.....
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Ah! Now I remember... I think.
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08 May 2007, 14:26
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traffic film remover
Hi,be carefull with TFR as many contain caustic soda.This can leave a white deposit on surfaces and can discolour stainless steel fittings.Afew years back Iwas a distributor for a company called Autosmart,they have an awesome cleaning product called G101.Approx £10.00 for 5 litres,dilute 20 to one with water,cleans anything.Call 01543 481616.Ask for your local distributor and they come to you in a mobile showroom.Please note I am no longer connected with Autosmart,just trying to help.
Dek.
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08 May 2007, 19:49
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not tested for urine?
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