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16 May 2013, 17:49
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That's made my blood run cold.
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16 May 2013, 17:49
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Town: Plymouth
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I heard that they bought it new 2 years ago. That was when it first kicked off though
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16 May 2013, 17:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
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Given the owners name and the boat name, plus it had the name on the A-frame in stainless I wouldn't put money on 2 weeks. It'd take a while to get that done.
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16 May 2013, 17:57
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Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
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Originally Posted by Silverfox
That's made my blood run cold.
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Let's wait for the investigation. I had been informed of a different reason.
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16 May 2013, 17:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset & Hants
Boat name: Streaker/Orange
Make: Avon/Ribcraft
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50Yam/25 Mariner
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Originally Posted by Mollers
It's thought that, the Wife was at the wheel with youngest on her lap turning figures of eight.
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Sad, but same stuff applies re safe running of a boat....
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16 May 2013, 18:07
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Town: Wild West
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Whatever the Events were that Lead to this Truley Sad and Tragic Accident,and especialy in view of the Fact that some of the People involved are still in Hospital.
Would'nt it be better to be Patient and wait until the results of the Official In-Depth Inquirey are Known.. befor we jump to Conclusions,and or, infer things that may well later prove to be completely Wrong?
I feel some GOOD points HAVE been made by Forum users.. but,untill we know the Facts,as they are..or as far as they can be proven..All the Speculation in the World wont realy Help.
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16 May 2013, 18:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
..All the Speculation in the World wont realy Help.
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Beware of the moral high ground boys, it's a precarious place from which to preach.
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16 May 2013, 18:21
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Town: Plymouth
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
Whatever the Events were that Lead to this Truley Sad and Tragic Accident,and especialy in view of the Fact that some of the People involved are still in Hospital.
Would'nt it be better to be Patient and wait until the results of the Official In-Depth Inquirey are Known.. befor we jump to Conclusions,and or, infer things that may well later prove to be completely Wrong?
I feel some GOOD points HAVE been made by Forum users.. but,untill we know the Facts,as they are..or as far as they can be proven..All the Speculation in the World wont realy Help.
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16 May 2013, 20:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gillingham Dorset
Boat name: Green Marlin
Make: Quickilver
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner
Join Date: Jul 2012
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Originally Posted by starclubbie;[URL="tel:536244"
536244[/URL]]Hi we are new to boating with a sib and 5 hp 2 stroke Yamaha outboard this is an older engine doesn't seem to have a kill cord do all engines have these and if so how are they fitted any information on this would be most welcome.
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Most stop buttons are also the kill switch, pull it out & put the tang of the kill cord behind the button. Our backup engine has a ziptie on the kill switch, so its push to shut down, it strugglles to do 3 knots on a good day! so safety is not really an issue with it, its for backup use only should the 90 fall off the back.
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16 May 2013, 21:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
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Originally Posted by cptsideways
Our backup engine has a ziptie on the kill switch, so its push to shut down, it strugglles to do 3 knots on a good day! so safety is not really an issue with it,
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Maybe but it depends how fast you can swim?!??
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16 May 2013, 21:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
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Originally Posted by Jizm
Maybe but it depends how fast you can swim?!??
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It's a good point-it'd be quite easy to go over trying to pullstart a motor on an aux bracket.
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17 May 2013, 06:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Length: 5m +
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17 May 2013, 07:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: yeovil
Boat name: Lilly of lyme
Make: XS
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30hp Yamaha
Join Date: Jul 2011
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so sad!...........................wear your kill chord.
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17 May 2013, 08:28
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
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17 May 2013, 08:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Daventry & Beaulieu
Boat name: Tigga2
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
MMSI: 235900806
Join Date: Jun 2011
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So the recommendation from MAIB is the kill cord should be worn whenever the engine is in gear, and preferably also when it's running in neutral. I fully agree with that statement.
Let's try and make something positive out of this awful accident, and all of us follow MAIB's recommendation.
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17 May 2013, 08:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
It's a good point-it'd be quite easy to go over trying to pullstart a motor on an aux bracket.
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Ive seen this happen in studland bay, guy gets off his cruiser, steps into his small tender, sits too far back and tries to pull the outboard cord, his weight plus the outboard on a small dinghy proves too much and the dinghy tips backwards hes gone off the back and then tender goes onto off him. luckily the outboard had not started.
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17 May 2013, 09:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
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Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu Outboard
Join Date: May 2012
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I suspect that we all had an idea what had happened before the publication of the report. Simple message, test & wear your kill cord. If you don't have one get one fitted. A real tragedy/
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17 May 2013, 15:04
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Town: Hants
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This was a tragedy and the outcome for the injured parties is awful.
As I said before despite the mass media response on the day and for the week that followed the message is NOT getting through to RIB users.
Today I spotted two RIB helms out of the three I saw today on the water at Southampton NOT wearing KILL cords.
What do we have to do to get this simple message over. Shows Pics of people who dont? Shame those that dont?
It is also a very selfish action not to wear the KILL cord, It does not just affect the non wearer but everyone aboard, your loved ones, and those who pick up the PIECES of you and your crew.
As well as being stunned by this accident, I am now angry at those who want their freedoms aboard boats and cant be bothered to look after themselves at the risk to themselves and everyone else. If you decide not to wear a lifejacket and drown then down to you but a KILL cord accident is likely to impact on so many. Rant over, happy boating everyone
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17 May 2013, 17:50
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
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Originally Posted by C2 RIBS
Today I spotted two RIB helms out of the three I saw today on the water at Southampton NOT wearing KILL cords.
What do we have to do to get this simple message over. Shows Pics of people who dont? Shame those that dont?
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Somebody on here or the other thread came up with showing pictures of people struck by props at local Marinas and slipways which I think would be a good idea. Sometimes we need a shock to help stop us from becoming complacent.
Also maybe insurance companies could remind us on our policies documents that the cover would be void if it was found that the accidents was directly caused by not using the KC.
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17 May 2013, 21:55
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#260
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Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
Is there a hint of what happened in the sentence: "Stop the engine before transferring the kill cord to another driver."
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Yes, from what I understand.
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