Tragedy at Padstow - 5 May 2013

[ashbypower]

As AH says above cannot get figures for the uk, however to try and put killcord fatalities in perspective here are diving (SCUBA) fatalities over the past couple of years~:
2013 ----- 5
2012------16
2011------12

not seen any petitions about people diving!!!
The RNLI were called out 8321 time last year..... not many for lack of kill cords I would guess !!

[ShinyShoe]

Thought someone quotes 19 fatalities in 10 years?

Difference between SCUBA and Ribbing is people expect there to be an inherint risk of diving. People thinking going for a drive in a boat should be safe beacuse you are on the water not in it.

I suspect if there was a bit of red curly string that could reduce the scuba fatalities there would be a campaign! I think thats the crux of the reason its SO emotive - there is technology that prevents the issue beign serious yet its not beign used all the time.

[ashbypower]

I have qouted from the BSAC website, which covers all agencies in the UK!!
There is to a degree an equvilent to the red cury cord........ two infact....dive tables and Computers........

[C2 RIBS]

Originally Posted by chris.moody

I'll check Kevin's Yamaha next week. How do you disengage the neutral lock after engaging it?

Chris the lock is on the left side of throttle base,blue light then flashes , just put throttle forward slightly does not increase revs until further up. To re engage drop back to neutral spot and then you can work as usual, worthwhile with clients on board whilst doing mooring lines before leaving or switching off

[Anchorhandler]

Originally Posted by ShinyShoe

Difference between SCUBA and Ribbing is people expect there to be an inherint risk of diving. People thinking going for a drive in a boat should be safe beacuse you are on the water not in it.

I hate to play devil's advocate here but TBH, i feel quite the opposite.

I have a PADI open water certificate and feel that (Ahem...with the training i recieved ) the risks with scuba diving are inferior to that of travelling at speed in an open top boat whilst surrounded by other boats travelling at similar speeds .

I'm sure i could go over the USCG statistics and find other tragic accidents that could of easily been avoided but the point i was trying to make is that given the number of people who take to the water ieach day both oversea's and here in the UK (irrespective of whether they are, or are not wearing the KC) the number of injuries and fatalaties caused by prop/vessel strikes is actually incredibly low.

Simon

[willk]

Originally Posted by Anchorhandler

As i said, these are US figures but based on the amout of people who take to the water over there, i would be surprised if the UK figures were any higher.

Perhaps its time for people to start putting the Padstow accident into perspective?

Simon

There have been some cases in Ireland over the past few years. One poor lad lost his arm last year: Marine Casualty Investigation Board. There was one involving four PAX a few years before that: Capsized boat in Galway Bay « Doolin Coast Guard.

It does happen.

[chris.moody]

Originally Posted by C2 RIBS

Chris the lock is on the left side of throttle base,blue light then flashes , just put throttle forward slightly does not increase revs until further up. To re engage drop back to neutral spot and then you can work as usual, worthwhile with clients on board whilst doing mooring lines before leaving or switching off

Thanks Ian, sounds much better than keep shutting down and re starting the engine when leaving the helm to do lines, fenders, etc.

[Anchorhandler]

Originally Posted by willk

There have been some cases in Ireland over the past few years. One poor lad lost his arm last year: Marine Casualty Investigation Board. There was one involving four PAX a few years before that: Capsized boat in Galway Bay « Doolin Coast Guard.

It does happen.

Yes it does, so lets add the number of people who take to the water in Ireland into the US/UK statistics. Im sure the percentage ratio of prop strikes per number of hours spent on the water will drop even further.

Sorry Wiilk but the argument here is that death or serious injury as a direct result of not wearing the KC is actually very rare therefore not justifying legislation/regulation etc...

In the first example you listed, the poor bloke admitted that he set out to sea with a defective KC system hence the reason he didnt wear it. If the KC system was operational, would he have used it? He was an experienced powerboater so i would like to think so.

In the second example no person was injured and the boat was later found on a beach.

Simon

[Andre]

Originally Posted by 250kts

If HMS and the magazine get the stickers printed, I will take a job lot and personnaly see that they are given out to all the local boat yards, dry stacks and slip ways in Poole.

I have even made up my own, laminated it and it will be on our RIB tomorrow. Part of our crew's role has always been to check that the skipper is clipped in.

Steve

I have today received a batch of stickers from Powerboat & RIB magazine and will for sure put the first one on my demo rib and on other ribs sold by us. I like the sticker . It is waterproof as it should be and the fact that is says on the bottom : "Supplied by Powerboat & Rib magazine" does not bother me one little bit. Somebody had to take the initiative. Well done HMS

Steve I can post some to you if you want any

[C2 RIBS]

Originally Posted by Andre

I have today received a batch of stickers from Powerboat & RIB magazine and will for sure put the first one on my demo rib and on other ribs sold by us. I like the sticker . It is waterproof as it should be and the fact that is says on the bottom : "Supplied by Powerboat & Rib magazine" does not bother me one little bit. Somebody had to take the initiative. Well done HMS

Steve I can post some to you if you want any

Marinas at MDL have them also, fitted yesterday

[BogMonster]

Originally Posted by Andre

I have today received a batch of stickers from Powerboat & RIB magazine and will for sure put the first one on my demo rib and on other ribs sold by us. I like the sticker . It is waterproof as it should be and the fact that is says on the bottom : "Supplied by Powerboat & Rib magazine" does not bother me one little bit. Somebody had to take the initiative. Well done HMS

Good stuff

If it saves somebody's face being rotavated, I don't care about a line of advertising. I'll hopefully be getting one with my next issue, and it will be going on the boat, though in reality it's rarely anybody but me at the helm anyway and I'm always there.

[PGIC]

Last night we posted an interactive timeline for the last couple years of UK boat kill cord and propeller safety related events, accidents, and developments. It graphically shows the intensity of interest following the Milligan accident. The interactive timeline is best viewed on a desktop computer or laptop with a large screen.

UK Boat Kill Cord & Propeller Safety Interactive Timeline :: Propeller Guard Information Center

gary

[matt h]

I made sure AJ had a sticker by stickin it on his Console!

[AJ.]

Still there and will remain there

[HUMBER P4VWL]

My daughter nicked mine, she LOVES stickers!!!

It's now stuck on her doll.

Educate them young!

[Nos4r2]

Does this mean you guys have had your copy of PB&R?

[AJ.]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Does this mean you guys have had your copy of PB&R?

Yeah last week. Did you not get the memo

[HUMBER P4VWL]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Does this mean you guys have had your copy of PB&R?

Fortnight ago

[Nos4r2]

Fairly obviously,mine hasn't arrived. I wonder why?

[willk]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Fairly obviously,mine hasn't arrived. I wonder why?

Maybe it's gonna be delivered by one of those Black Helicopters hovering over your gaff.....