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28 June 2013, 10:08
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Maybe it's gonna be delivered by one of those Black Helicopters hovering over your gaff.....
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The footman's still ironing it.
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20 June 2014, 06:51
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Well done to Mrs Milligan for going to media today talking about how she lost her husband, child and a leg in this incident. She is now raising money for air ambulance/RNLI .
If anyone needs to see the human side of this listen to her words on BBC breakfast. Also suggest this is one of the best safety briefings any school ever needs to show
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20 June 2014, 09:43
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Originally Posted by C2 RIBS
Well done to Mrs Milligan for going to media today talking about how she lost her husband, child and a leg in this incident. She is now raising money for air ambulance/RNLI .
If anyone needs to see the human side of this listen to her words on BBC breakfast. Also suggest this is one of the best safety briefings any school ever needs to show
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Yep, she is clearly a very strong person to come through an ordeal like that, I don't think I'd be nearly so mentally composed
You can hear her on BBC R4 iPlayer here (it's near the end of the programme, so skip forward to 02:22:00).
Makes you think.
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20 June 2014, 10:09
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20 June 2014, 11:03
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Quite moving listening to her speak.
She's right. You don't know what's round the corner.....
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20 June 2014, 12:37
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having read the accident report when it came out, then seeing her this morning its quite obvious that it was nothing more than a tragic accident - as opposed to a result of recklessness. i was really pleased to see her being interviewed, and she came across very well.
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20 June 2014, 12:50
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A very brave lady, makes one realise how trivial our problems are.
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20 June 2014, 13:03
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Admins please read.
This is a very moving clip and very good reminder on the dangers of not wearing your kill cord. Can we please have the News clip on a sticky so that new members and old can be reminded what can happen?
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20 June 2014, 15:26
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Originally Posted by gtb
Yep, she is clearly a very strong person to come through an ordeal like that, I don't think I'd be nearly so mentally composed
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But hopefully you'll never be in the position to do so because you're mentally composed enough to spend 5 seconds clipping a plastic cord to yourself each time you start your boat, because presumably you prefer your family being alive as opposed to dead.
It's so simple, wear your kill cord. Never has such a more simple thing saved lives so easily.
What happened in Padstow was a tragedy but an easily avoidable one.
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20 June 2014, 16:32
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Originally Posted by tehguy
But hopefully you'll never be in the position to do so because you're mentally composed enough to spend 5 seconds clipping a plastic cord to yourself each time you start your boat, because presumably you prefer your family being alive as opposed to dead.
It's so simple, wear your kill cord. Never has such a more simple thing saved lives so easily.
What happened in Padstow was a tragedy but an easily avoidable one.
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yes and she will live with that for the rest of her life. i ALWAYS use my killcord but funnily enough im human and have appalled myself probably twice by realising that i havent been clipped in. its a momentary lapse that can happen to anyone and of course with equally tragic results. there are however too many who feel they are too big and clever to need one, i dont think this was a result of that though.
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20 June 2014, 18:42
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Mrs Milligan has been all over Radio Cornwall today. She has donated GBP250k to Cornwall air ambulance, their biggest ever single donation. Our new air ambulance helicopter will be named after Nick and Emily. The celebrity cycle ride from Cornwall to London taking place today hopes to raise another 500k which will be distributed in Cornwall, largely to the RNLI.
These people made a mistake, for which they have paid a dreadful price. Most of us are highly experienced boat users and would probably not have made the same mistake. That does not mean that any of us are immune to making mistakes in other areas of life. So let's not judge this particular incident and feel for this lady who has lost so much and now has the courage to do so much good.
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20 June 2014, 18:46
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Mrs Milligan has been all over Radio Cornwall today. She has donated GBP250k to Cornwall air ambulance, their biggest ever single donation. Our new air ambulance helicopter will be named after Nick and Emily. The celebrity cycle ride from Cornwall to London taking place today hopes to raise another 500k which will be distributed in Cornwall, largely to the RNLI.
These people made a mistake, for which they have paid a dreadful price. Most of us are highly experienced boat users and would probably not have made the same mistake. That does not mean that any of us are immune to making mistakes in other areas of life. So let's not judge this particular incident and feel for this lady who has lost so much and now has the courage to do so much good.
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Very well said
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20 June 2014, 18:47
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I can understand human error and people make mistakes but failing to attach your kill cord is in my opinion much more serious than something like leaving your mobile phone at work for example.
You get in your boat, you attach the cord before even starting the engine. I remove the cord from my outboard every time I stop the boat so it's impossible to forget because the engine will not start without it.
There are simply no excuses. Accidents like knocking the throttle to maximum can happen at any time, just look at the news it happened recently down here and thankfully nobody was hurt. The skipper said he detached the cord from himself because he was just coming up to the jetty.
I'd love to know why none of these guys were, just so I could understand what sort of mindset you need to be in to be happy you are putting people's lives in so much danger.
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20 June 2014, 18:52
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Shock post....
I totally agree with Mollers
I think tehguy is seeing it from the wrong angle and preaching to the coverted.
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20 June 2014, 18:53
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This is a very moving clip and very good reminder on the dangers of not wearing your kill cord. Can we please have the News clip on a sticky so that new members and old can be reminded what can happen?
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Andy - I'll do that later this evening if nobody gets their first. I was going to do it this morning but inconveniently i had to do some work - a nasty habit which seems to be happening a lot recently!
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Originally Posted by tehguy
But hopefully you'll never be in the position to do so because you're mentally composed enough to spend 5 seconds clipping a plastic cord to yourself each time you start your boat, because presumably you prefer your family being alive as opposed to dead.
It's so simple, wear your kill cord. Never has such a more simple thing saved lives so easily.
What happened in Padstow was a tragedy but an easily avoidable one.
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My memory of the MAIB report is not perfect but I seem to recall that the family did routinely use a kill cord, and a momentary lapse was the reason for not doing so on this occasion, rather than systematic incompetence. I'm not sure your 'never do wrong' attitude is actually that helpful.
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Originally Posted by Mollers
These people made a mistake, for which they have paid a dreadful price. Most of us are highly experienced boat users and would probably not have made the same mistake. That does not mean that any of us are immune to making mistakes in other areas of life. So let's not judge this particular incident and feel for this lady who has lost so much and now has the courage to do so much good.
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Probably one of your wisest posts for a while! I suspect any of us can fail to connect a kill cord even with experience.
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20 June 2014, 18:55
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Originally Posted by Ian M
Very well said
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Heard her this morning.Some lady! All the best to her and her Family.
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20 June 2014, 18:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Mrs Milligan has been all over Radio Cornwall today. She has donated GBP250k to Cornwall air ambulance, their biggest ever single donation. Our new air ambulance helicopter will be named after Nick and Emily. The celebrity cycle ride from Cornwall to London taking place today hopes to raise another 500k which will be distributed in Cornwall, largely to the RNLI.
These people made a mistake, for which they have paid a dreadful price. Most of us are highly experienced boat users and would probably not have made the same mistake. That does not mean that any of us are immune to making mistakes in other areas of life. So let's not judge this particular incident and feel for this lady who has lost so much and now has the courage to do so much good.
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Very nicely put Mollers couldn't have worded that any better, I have seen a new side to you
Tehguy - I think you are preaching to the converted and having watched the BBC interview I think a bit of compassion wouldn't go a miss. Point made move on
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20 June 2014, 19:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
Probably one of your wisest posts for a while! .
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I'll try to keep a lid on it.
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20 June 2014, 19:11
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Tragedy at Padstow - 5 May 2013
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I'll try to keep a lid on it.
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Aye lad, think of yer reputation😈
To tehguy, put your sanctimonious hat back in its box it doesn't suit you. There but for the grace of god..........
.....sh1t happens.......
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20 June 2014, 19:26
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Originally Posted by Mollers
Mrs Milligan has been all over Radio Cornwall today. She has donated GBP250k to Cornwall air ambulance, their biggest ever single donation. Our new air ambulance helicopter will be named after Nick and Emily. The celebrity cycle ride from Cornwall to London taking place today hopes to raise another 500k which will be distributed in Cornwall, largely to the RNLI.
These people made a mistake, for which they have paid a dreadful price. Most of us are highly experienced boat users and would probably not have made the same mistake. That does not mean that any of us are immune to making mistakes in other areas of life. So let's not judge this particular incident and feel for this lady who has lost so much and now has the courage to do so much good.
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Hear hear plus one to that!!
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