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20 October 2006, 09:42
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Originally Posted by fred bolton
Why not stick the boat on a trailer and fill her up at the petrol station?
If he did that, is it legal to have more than 220 litres in her?
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Codders dose not have a trailer!
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20 October 2006, 12:08
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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
Codders dose not have a trailer!
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surely a trailer for the rib would be a better investment than a petrol bowser
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20 October 2006, 12:22
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Originally Posted by fred bolton
surely a trailer for the rib would be a better investment than a petrol bowser
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Difference in price of about £2000!!! Also I am OWED a trailer so waiting to see if I get it!!!
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20 October 2006, 12:48
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Originally Posted by fred bolton
Why not stick the boat on a trailer and fill her up at the petrol station?
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I am fortunate that I "store" my boat on a trailer in my yard, so filling it at the station is easy. I have seen guys with numerous jerry cans and the station operator is the one doing the filling. My guess is that he would rather have the revenue rather than worry about regulations.
Not to stray from the topic, but I am curious about fuel rates in the UK. Last summer, in Canada, many stations were up in the $1.10/litre and perhaps 10% more at a marina. It has come down (now that summer vacation season is past...) to an average of about $.82/litre
http://www.xe.com/ucc/
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20 October 2006, 12:54
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Originally Posted by Stoo
... but I am curious about fuel rates in the UK.
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You are paying about half our price.
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20 October 2006, 13:02
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Even less actually!!! In the UK petrol is currently about £0.85 per litre - without tax about £0.30 - bit of a difference. Do you pay road tax in Canada???
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20 October 2006, 23:16
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Even less actually!!! In the UK petrol is currently about £0.85 per litre - without tax about £0.30 - bit of a difference. Do you pay road tax in Canada???
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Yes.. about 1/2 is tax... GST (similar to your VAT) and Provincial Sales Tax except Alberta) Did I read that you folks can get a rebate on your road tax if the fuel is used in a boat? We can't, but I think there was a time when we could...
If you guys are paying double what we are... well, you have my sympathy! I burn about 1.5 l./NM in my Hurricane at my typical cruising speed... about 36-38 MPH with an average load of me, my side-kick, two Huskies and a load of dive gear...
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21 October 2006, 14:55
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Fuel Tanker
Coincidence , I was in the local Morrisons filling station yesterday where they get all upset about filling cans and a guy was filling a big tank mounted to the back of a little Rascal pick up .
It had the relavent safety stickers on it but it must have been at least a 200 litre tank and he was putting petrol in it no diesel .
He didn't get any grief at all
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21 October 2006, 15:54
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Makes sense to me - how can carrying loads of leaky old jerrycans be safer than a purpose built tank??? Then again when has sense ever come into it???
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21 October 2006, 17:55
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jerry cans
I wonder if the problem with jerry cans and the legislation has anything to do with the fact that some fools use the wrong type of containers , ie ones made for water that burst easily etc .
You see enough Landies about with 2 or more 20l jerry cans strapped on the outside and they never get any hassle
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21 October 2006, 17:58
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And whilst on the subject of jerry cans don't be tempted to buy new ones - they are crap. I have 2 about 1yr old and all the rest are from the 60s or 80s - the older ones are still in better shape even after years of the army bashing them - my new ones have already rusted. Also if the seals have gone you can buy more.
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22 October 2006, 00:16
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If anyone needs spouts for jerrycans our local army surplus has got them. They used to be quite hard to find-dunno about now though. He's not got them on the web page-you'll have to ring him.
http://www.premiersurplus.co.uk
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22 October 2006, 10:36
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Originally Posted by codprawn
And whilst on the subject of jerry cans don't be tempted to buy new ones - they are crap. I have 2 about 1yr old and all the rest are from the 60s or 80s - the older ones are still in better shape even after years of the army bashing them - my new ones have already rusted. Also if the seals have gone you can buy more.
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is that the difference between new and old or Mil and "civvy" spec?
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22 October 2006, 11:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
is that the difference between new and old or Mil and "civvy" spec?
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As I've said before, it's always worth doing a search. Jerry cans post #13
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22 October 2006, 13:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoo
I read that you folks can get a rebate on your road tax if the fuel is used in a boat?
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Now that's interesting. Can one get a rebate on fuel Tax, if it's not used for the car?
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22 October 2006, 14:02
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Originally Posted by Hightower
Now that's interesting. Can one get a rebate on fuel Tax, if it's not used for the car?
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I think so - for example the steel works in Port talbot have petrol which is only for use on site.
I suppose you could claim for your lawn mower or chainsaw as well - they rely on the fact most people don't bother!!!
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22 October 2006, 14:03
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Originally Posted by Polwart
is that the difference between new and old or Mil and "civvy" spec?
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Don't know - the newer ones are "supposed" to be military as well but the quality is way off the mark. I suspect most of the ones you buy are cheap imports these days.
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22 October 2006, 14:06
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Noticed in the other post Brian says about the red coating flaking off - I have the same problem on the old and new ones!!! I use a filter funnel to catch them or the filter built into the "donkey's dick". Arrogant berk in our local joking chandlers said there was no need to try to filter the fuel before it went into the tank - "the engine filter will stop it" - what an idiot!!!
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22 October 2006, 14:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
I think so - for example the steel works in Port talbot have petrol which is only for use on site.
I suppose you could claim for your lawn mower or chainsaw as well - they rely on the fact most people don't bother!!!
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So how'd you go about it then?
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22 October 2006, 14:36
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And whilst on the subject of jerry cans don't be tempted to buy new ones - they are crap. I have 2 about 1yr old and all the rest are from the 60s or 80s - the older ones are still in better shape even after years of the army bashing them - my new ones have already rusted. Also if the seals have gone you can buy more.
I use 2 ex- oil drums of 220 liters each, and are a kind of "shady " lawful.
I go quite often to Luxembourg on business and invarably come back with
the tanks full. I pop them into the Sedona and fill them up anywhere. Cost in Lux . at the pump equates to about 68 pence. The problem is then transferring the gas to the boat.....
Jonathan
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