Transporting petrol to your rib

[Poly]

Mike, the CDG regs implement ADR. The ADR 1.1.3.1a is where the both the private use exemption and the 240 and 60L limits on it.

I'm on my phone so I links and cut N paste is pita at the moment.

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by mikew4

Lets get one thing sorted. To transport petrol, it must first be stored. You physically cannot transport it otherwise.

The regs do not mention transporting of fuel outside of a work context. Therefore the storage regs apply.

I have read the RYA guidance note here:
Carriage and Storage of Petrol and Diesel | Regulations | Knowledge & Advice | Knowledge & Advice | RYA

By their own admission, this is an interpretation of the current rules and regs. So you would not rely on this interpretation in your defence.

The RYA article is flawed in a number of ways:
- It state that a max of 240 litres can be transported where each contained is no more than 60 litres. Yet the article fails to cite sources for these figures / claims. This is poor form.
- The RYA article does list 3 sources of information used to inform the above claims, which I have read. I have been unable to verify the claims.
- The numbers and claims contradict the HSE regulations available here: If you store petrol at home, or at a club/association or similar premises - Petrol: Fire and explosion which states that "you can store up to 30 litres of petrol in a maximum of 2 suitable containers in your vehicle."

Given the highly dangerous nature of petrol I am very surprised by the very poor quality article published by the RYA. It is standard practice when writing such articles to cite the source for each key piece of information, allowing a reader to validate each claim and read around each claim accordingly.

I have emailed the RYA and asked them to amend the article. Let's see what happens.

So if you believe that then you'll be buying a battery powered rib because that's the only practical answer if you believe your argument is true and you stick to the rules

I just thought I was breaking the rules all this time!
I'm pleasantly surprised by the info in this thread

[willk]

Originally Posted by mikew4

I have emailed the RYA and asked them to amend the article. Let's see what happens.

Oh dear - like a turkey voting for Christmas!

Bad luck to you!

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by willk

Oh dear - like a turkey voting for Christmas!

Bad luck to you!

There's always one! I'd missed that bit!

[willk]

Originally Posted by beamishken

There's always one! I'd missed that bit!

Absolutely bizarre. The restrictions that JK has placed on me prevent me from fully expressing my opinion!

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by willk

Absolutely bizarre. The restrictions that JK has placed on me prevent me from fully expressing my opinion!

Even if the Rya guidance was wrong whilst it's there in black and white were all in a better position if the shit hits . You can say but m'lord I read it on the rya Web site
Absolutely stupid to ask them to remove it when we all have little option but to transport fuel

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by beamishken

Even if the Rya guidance was wrong whilst it's there in black and white were all in a better position if the shit hits . You can say but m'lord I read it on the rya Web site
Absolutely stupid to ask them to remove it when we all have little option but to transport fuel

Personally I think the RYA should run a "Storage & Transportation of fuel" course, followed by the issuing of a licence at a modest charge which needs to be renewed annually (naturally[emoji849]). The local council could issue a storage licence for your home/garage/shed, this would need to be issued on an annual basis, following the payment of an appropriate fee. Appropriate signage & stickers would have to be displayed on any vehicle transporting fuel or other hazardous boating related items, life jackets, VHF with lithium batteries, Gin etc. I think with the appropriate pressure in the right direction we could really clean up our act & get our house in order, & Mike is our man. Go for it dude, really shake that tree[emoji57]

[Schoolhouse]

I have side tanks on the landy, each will take 100 litres. Currently one is fuel with a lift pump the other for fresh water, however a regular user of lots of fuel with a 110 landy could easily stick 100 litres of petrol in each.

Drive careful though [emoji15]

[GuyC]

Originally Posted by Schoolhouse

....on the landy, ... one is fuel with a lift pump the other for fresh water...

Does it make a difference to the performance?

[Schoolhouse]

With a non standard primary tank of 120 litres it can carry almost 1/3 of a ton of liquid on board but it never made much difference. Certainly handy crossing Russia and Mongolia

[willk]

Originally Posted by GuyC

Does it make a difference to the performance?

I've regularly carried 300 hundred litres of diesel in the back of mine. It's barely noticeable, driving wise, and it's quite a bit heavier than petrol/gas

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by mikew4

You are splitting hairs...

To transport it, you need to first store it !

There you go...(Again!)..Who's your money on....the Dog?...Or the Tail!?
Great Thread!

[jambo]

Originally Posted by Maximus

There you go...(Again!)..Who's your money on....the Dog?...Or the Tail!?
Great Thread!

Me money is on either the chicken or the egg!![emoji56]

[GuyC]

Originally Posted by GuyC

Does it make a difference to the performance?

Thank you for the considered answers.

I have to come clean and own up that my question related to whether there was a noticeable difference in performance of your Landy between using either water or fuel in the combustion process.

Not only do I feel slightly chastened by the honest answers given but the living in Scotland, the 10m RIB and the trip(s) to Mongolia has made me turn a shade of Eastnor Green.

Back to the OP - I hope that you've managed to form an opinion based on all the 'advice' provided.