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19 February 2018, 17:08
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Tubes faded
Hi.....well that Hurricane Irma destroyed my house entirely but my rib was untouched........so that’s a relief....
Need advice about reviving the dark blue tube colour and adding a sheen.....saw a thread about an eBay advertised leather colour reviver but cannot find it again....
Help and advice would be welcome, guys!
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19 February 2018, 17:18
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Is it hypalon or pvc?
Don't be too hasty using the incorrect stuff just yet. If you use silicon based polish ( which most non rib specific ones are ) then it makes repairing the tubes much harder or possibly impossible in some cases depending on what your tubes are made from.
Post up what your tubes are made from and you will get what you need.
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19 February 2018, 18:17
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Tubes faded
Thanks......the tubes are hypalon.
Sun has faded the very back of the tubes which escaped from my cover!
The rest is looking fine, but I was hoping to find a good product which would restore the sheen/shine .....
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19 February 2018, 18:18
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I heard about a leather colour restorer which several used on their tubes.....would that be harmful?
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19 February 2018, 18:33
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In a word.....probably.
Silicon based products make repairing hypalon very difficult, some people on here have needed a retube as they couldn't repair the Boat, I can't mind who it was but it was on rib.net for sure I read it.
Your best bet is using toulene thinners and a light towel on all the tubes to try and start from even basis. For touch spots you can use a light scouring pad, not the normal pad used for dishes, 3m make a very light pad ideal for such tasks but ONLY on tough bits.
What you need is toluene, not sure if you can get it in USA by a different name or same name.
Be very careful using it and wear gloves.
Once done then some 303 aerospace is what most seem to like using. It is crap on black tubes but might be okay on blue.
Depending on how bad the fade is you might not get it all out of a dark colour like blue but worth a go.
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19 February 2018, 22:43
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We use a product called Aurora Speed clean for faded and oxidized tubes. It works really well at getting original color back especially on colored tubes (red, yellow, blue, etc).
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20 February 2018, 10:14
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 Tube restorers work well on blue orange and red tubes. Pictures below are before and after using Rib cleaner from August Race (dont think it is available in the US),
The second stage would be to apply their UV shine which conditions and protects the hypalon.
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20 February 2018, 11:44
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Originally Posted by Xk59D
Once done then some 303 aerospace is what most seem to like using. .......It is crap on black tubes....
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How so? It brings mine up a treat[emoji848]
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20 February 2018, 12:18
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Either our tubes/techniques are different or what we consider brings up a treat is different I guess. It has always been a pita to get these ones looking as good as last boat.
My last Avon adventure was dark blue and it took a great shine with just about any polish I threw at it.
This shine lasted about a month with hypatec and to date is best I've tried. The 303 looked as shiney until it dried and it left a duller sheen which I don't like personally.
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20 February 2018, 12:29
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Hi Chicane and so sorry to hear about your house! Thanks for the recommendation NWR&I and if it helps we have a large distributor in the US Defender Ind https://www.defender.com/where you can get Liquid Rib from which will transform your blue rib. All the best! August Race Team
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20 February 2018, 14:46
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Thanks everyone!
I have some 303.....it looks great at first but sheen disappears fast.
Maybe I am not using enough..?
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20 February 2018, 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xk59D
Either our tubes/techniques are different or what we consider brings up a treat is different I guess. It has always been a pita to get these ones looking as good as last boat.
My last Avon adventure was dark blue and it took a great shine with just about any polish I threw at it.
This shine lasted about a month with hypatec and to date is best I've tried. The 303 looked as shiney until it dried and it left a duller sheen which I don't like personally.
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Wow that looks amazing....just the shine I’d like!
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20 February 2018, 15:17
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.....or what we consider brings up a treat is different I guess.....
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Aye! That could be it
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20 February 2018, 15:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicane
Thanks everyone!
I have some 303.....it looks great at first but sheen disappears fast.
Maybe I am not using enough..?
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Nope....normal.
Lots seem to like the finish with 303 and it is better than most but I like hypatec after trying just about everything made.
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20 February 2018, 18:58
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Nope....normal.
Lots seem to like the finish with 303 and it is better than most but I like hypatec after trying just about everything made.
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I have just ordered some Hypatec.....not heard of that one before......will give it a try...thanks for the tip!
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20 February 2018, 19:04
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Be warned, the key is in the prep with toluene first and then lots of elbow grease with the polish.
There is no wipe on magic wand I've found yet
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20 February 2018, 19:16
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Lol...not daunted by the need for elbow grease......worth it to have a clean looking boat.
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20 February 2018, 19:26
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Lol...not daunted by the need for elbow grease......worth it to have a clean looking boat.
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Be warned, I used Hypatek on my last boat, god awful stuff, made a real mess of my military grey tubes. I followed the instructions to the letter. It dried streaky & dull. Even MEK wouldn't fetch it off. Try a small inconspicuous area first.
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20 February 2018, 19:43
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I can tell you for a fact that hypatec only works as well as you see it in my pics after toluene. If you put it over existing polish that you haven't removed with toluene, it like most other polishes in my opinion are crap over non clean tubes. By clean I don't mean TFR clean, I mean solvent clean. I had streaking in my tubes but I'm not sure which polish caused it as I have so many, only toluene shifted it though.
I have every polish made just about in my shed and what works on some colours will not work on others. it is days of work to get the black like that picture so I only do it once per year to that extent. Other times it is TFR and hypatec for a good finish but not as good as the pics.
My old rib loved 3m tube polish. One wipe and it was like a new penny but black....not so much.
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21 February 2018, 01:55
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