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07 July 2011, 15:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
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Turbo swing
This is one of the best products I've seen in a while.
Check them out below
http://www.turboswing.com/en/home/
The basically retro fit to any outboard powered boat to provide the ultimate ski pole, work rack etc. Ideal for all ranges be it ski, safety boat, towing etc. Looks like they fit on using the existing transom engine bolts so easy to install, gives protecting to the engine too and look quite smart at the same time.
They come in all range of sizes for most outboards 25hp+ - even twins if you want.
Here's a video of them in action
Anybody have experience of them ?
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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07 July 2011, 16:44
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Country: Sweden
Town: Stockholm
Make: KR7
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Engine: Evinrude 150 H.O
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Saw it at Ribex, on the fantastic C-Fury
Very smart....
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07 July 2011, 17:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cotswolds
Make: Avon SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp
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doesn't that put too much strain on the outboard? I would want to tow from something more structural...
Alasdair
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07 July 2011, 17:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Aquaholic
Make: Ribeye
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250 V8
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akirk
doesn't that put too much strain on the outboard? I would want to tow from something more structural...
Alasdair
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I would have thought it would go on the inside of the transom, and the force spread out onto the transom, the transom is likely to be one of the strongest parts of the boat... well I'd hope so anyway!
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07 July 2011, 18:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: Northampton
Make: RibTec
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outbaord mariner 75
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Hmm bit pricey. I think I will stick to the normal ski rope attachements to my rear tow eyes.
TurboSwing® XL standard € 449,00
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07 July 2011, 18:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cotswolds
Make: Avon SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benc
I would have thought it would go on the inside of the transom, and the force spread out onto the transom, the transom is likely to be one of the strongest parts of the boat... well I'd hope so anyway!
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sort of both - they have mounting instructions on their website - goes onto the bolts which hold the outboard onto the transom...
the thought of adding weight / pull onto those bolts doesn't seem to make sense - I would rather see them mounted directly to the transom - though physicists might be able to demonstrate that it doesn't matter!
Alasdair
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07 July 2011, 18:33
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Town: Hamble
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It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt!
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07 July 2011, 18:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Aquaholic
Make: Ribeye
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250 V8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akirk
sort of both - they have mounting instructions on their website - goes onto the bolts which hold the outboard onto the transom...
the thought of adding weight / pull onto those bolts doesn't seem to make sense - I would rather see them mounted directly to the transom - though physicists might be able to demonstrate that it doesn't matter!
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Ah, missed the mounting instructions, I was interested before I saw them - but I wouldnt add anything to the outside side of the transom that is to take weight like that
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07 July 2011, 19:21
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Transom concerns aside they look pretty neat.
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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07 July 2011, 20:14
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benc
but I wouldnt add anything to the outside side of the transom that is to take weight like that
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Can't see why not. Surely the engine is pushing the boat along, not the boat pulling the engine along. The engine saddle/bolts are the strongest point on the boat and the bit taking all the load when you give it some welly. The transom just spreads the load onto the hull and tubes.
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07 July 2011, 20:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akirk
doesn't that put too much strain on the outboard? I would want to tow from something more structural...
Alasdair
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Secured to what.... The transom ?
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007
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07 July 2011, 21:35
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Member
Country: Netherlands
Town: groningen
Boat name: tess, searanger
Make: sailer, avon 5,4
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard, suzuki 90
Join Date: Jul 2010
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skiing
Have experience with small turboschwing icw. zodiac pro7 super for skiing.
I think the construction is super with small amount of force for transom.
Thinking of buying the tow/ resque version for my searider (when i have the money) its expensive yes i think so but its a good product. You can stand on the towresque if there are any problems with propellor.
towing a skier or boat is safe because towing point is behind engine and angle can be adjusted.
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07 July 2011, 21:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cotswolds
Make: Avon SR4
Length: 4m +
Engine: 40hp
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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
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fair point
I suppose I was thinking that you are focusing more force onto the points of the transom which are already taking the weight / vibration / etc. of the engine - my totally illogical / not thought through intuitive feel is that a point elsewhere on the transom would spread force across the transom giving a spread of force, rather than point based stress...
intuition is a dangerous thing - and I am sure that they have tested it!
Alasdair
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08 July 2011, 08:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
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Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benc
Ah, missed the mounting instructions, I was interested before I saw them - but I wouldnt add anything to the outside side of the transom that is to take weight like that
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As far as I can see as others have said it attaches to the outboard bolts = strongest part of the boat!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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08 July 2011, 08:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
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Length: 8m +
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My only concern would be if it wasn't fitted really well it would wear the Ali outboard saddle and loosen that bolts
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08 July 2011, 08:35
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Town: Southampton
Boat name: Aquaholic
Make: Ribeye
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250 V8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
As far as I can see as others have said it attaches to the outboard bolts = strongest part of the boat!
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Yes, but I mean the leverage that it will cause against the bolts is what I would worry about
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08 July 2011, 08:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
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Engine: inboard/diesel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benc
Yes, but I mean the leverage that it will cause against the bolts is what I would worry about
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Agree with this. An outboard most of the time is pushing against the transom. Now you would have maybe 12 stone guy plus kinetic energy plus the bracket levering on a soft aluminium saddle
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08 July 2011, 09:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon. uk
Boat name: bananashark
Make: me
Length: 7m +
Engine: opti 225
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The force even a twenty stone guy is capadle of pulling on a piece of sting will be very small compared to the force and leverage of an engine shoving your boat out of a hole in the water.
If in doubt double bolt the transom.
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08 July 2011, 09:53
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
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The maximum pulling force on the transom can only ever equal the pushing force of the engine. If the majority of the pushing force of the engine is transmitted throught the bolts and the pulling force of the turbo swing is also through the bolts thus there is no lever effect. I would consider this product a very easy product on transoms as the max pulling force effected on the transom assuming that it is tied to an imovable object is zero.
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08 July 2011, 10:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon. uk
Boat name: bananashark
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Engine: opti 225
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Not quite, as the prop is pushing low on the end of the leg the saddle takes the leverage and pushes on the bottem and pulls on the top.
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